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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 11:15 AM
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Xenon Headlamps (US Driver Side Brighter than the Passenger)

This occurs regardless of the bulb used. The driver side light (left seated inside the car) seems to throw a bright spot beam in addition to the horizon cutoff. The passenger side (right side seated inside the car) has mainly just the horizon cutoff.

Have any of you noticed a significant difference between your right and left headlamps (xenon only)?

I'm curious if one or the other of mine is a manufacturing defect, of if it's supposed to be the pattern of light they throw out.
 

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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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dont see any differ on mine..

but i had the same problem with my VW MK5 GTI b4....
dealer change both of the bulbs and same thing still happen....
at the end i changed both of the ballasts and bulbs myself to get the matching color
 
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 01:30 PM
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There is definitely a difference in pattern between right and left DOT-legal HID lights, this is by design. The driver's side light throws more light toward the center of the car and has a sharp cut-off on the left- this is to not blind oncoming cars. The right light skews toward the right, to help illuminate signs on the side of the road.

But there should not be a difference in brightness or color. If this is the case, somehting is wrong with a bulb, ballast, or wiring.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 02:10 PM
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To clarify there is no difference in color, etc. just the pattern of light.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 03:26 PM
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I just made an appointment today for Monday to have mine looked at. Out of nowhere mine seem to be adjusted way to high! I work nights and have a 70 mile drive home. I have been flashed abaout 40 times the last couple of nights!!??
 
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 11:13 PM
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Well on the plus side at least you have your car back right

Originally Posted by 52804x4
I just made an appointment today for Monday to have mine looked at. Out of nowhere mine seem to be adjusted way to high! I work nights and have a 70 mile drive home. I have been flashed abaout 40 times the last couple of nights!!??
 
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 07:42 AM
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I've even switched the bulbs right to left. I think this is normal. I'll try to take a picture of the horizon on a wall at night to get someone to compare.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by xenor
I've even switched the bulbs right to left. I think this is normal. I'll try to take a picture of the horizon on a wall at night to get someone to compare.
As I said before, you have a pattern issue. The pattern is determined by the projector assembly/lens, not the bulb. The bulb just makes light, the projector/lens directs it. Park facing a closed garage door and take a picture of the beam pattern. It's likely what you are seeing is normal, or the lights may need to be re-aimed.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Kispian
Well on the plus side at least you have your car back right
Yep, that was a looong 29 days!! Especially having to drive a Kia Rio!
 
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 52804x4
29 days...Kia Rio
:shudder:

Automotive purgatory.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 11:05 AM
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Wait a minute, was your car gone for 29 days have anything related to the headlight assembly?

ie accident, engine repair, etc?

I ask this because if there was work done to the front of the car, that may have something to do with the issue.

aaron
 
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Royson G
:shudder:

Automotive purgatory.
2012 Kia rio isn't a bad little car actually, more power than a base cooper...

 
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by praecurvo
Wait a minute, was your car gone for 29 days have anything related to the headlight assembly?

ie accident, engine repair, etc?

I ask this because if there was work done to the front of the car, that may have something to do with the issue.

aaron
Body shop, for hail damage.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 01:09 PM
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Do you know if they had to do anything with the front end?

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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by praecurvo
Do you know if they had to do anything with the front end?

aaron
They had to replace the hood. So I called and asked them if they had to do anything with the headlight housing, and they said they "did not"!
 
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 02:50 PM
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hmmm
 
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 08:53 AM
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Attached some shots of the cutoff. The left light seems to throw a spot down the center (maybe a little left of center) of the road. It still has an alright cutoff. The right light looks like it has no hotspot like the right and has a sharp (maybe sharper than the right) cutoff.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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It looks like a lens defect. What has your dealership to say about this?

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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 09:52 AM
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I haven't mentioned it to the stealership yet. I wanted to get some opinions first. The cutoff on the left side seems ok, it's just that hot spot that has me slightly concerned.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 05:42 PM
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Knowing that the dealership probably wouldn't fix this under warranty, since the beam pattern was mostly ok, they probably would say nothing was wrong.

I would like to update that I have corrected the cutoff focusing issue by adjusting the shield cutoff screw on the projector. It was set inward quite a bit, so I backed it out 1/4 turn at a time and measured the cutoff horizon each time at 10ft. I did this until the cutoffs matched.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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I agree that's an unusual pattern. How about giving Daniel Stern http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ an email with those pics? He is an absolute automotive lighting guru, and may have an opinion.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 06:17 PM
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I looked up all the information I could find about the AL projector located in the countryman xenons. That's how I found the information about the cutoff shield adjustment. The problem has been fixed and the two cutoff patterns match.

The only thing left to do now is to vertically re-aim them. Since installing springs, they are aimed a little lower, at the road more, and this is due to the headlight leveling sensors on the fron and rear. Once I re-aim them, they should be good to go.
 
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