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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 01:26 PM
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Help me sort out factory vs dealer JCWs...

I think I have this right...

- There was no JCW R53 model.
- None of the R53 JCW kits included upgraded brakes/suspension or the aero kit unless ordered in addition.
- In 2006, a JCW motor option was offered and installed at the factory.
- Before that, there was a JCW motor option that was dealer installed.

I'm looking to purchase a very specific car, and I'm trying to sort through the numerous options and aftermarket stuff...
 
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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Also, factory R56 JCWs have distinct VINs, whereas none of the R53s have distinct VINS...I would have to check the options at a dealer with the VIN, no?
 
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tremelune
I think I have this right...

- There was no JCW R53 model.
- None of the R53 JCW kits included upgraded brakes/suspension or the aero kit unless ordered in addition.
- In 2006, a JCW motor option was offered and installed at the factory.
- Before that, there was a JCW motor option that was dealer installed.

I'm looking to purchase a very specific car, and I'm trying to sort through the numerous options and aftermarket stuff...
For the most part you are correct as for the brakes in addition to the JCW motor work was done on the 06 the only thing that was an option in 06 was the suspension. I have a factory 2006 JCS JCW with the Checkmate Package without the JCW suspension which I didnt want because i wanted to put on a KW V2 Coilove kit.
Your pretty much on top of this and got the story straight.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 05:55 PM
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The R53 JCW kit should have a brake upgrade. They come with painted red calipers and a JCW decal on the front brakes. They are actually the same size as the stock R56 S brakes which are unpainted.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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On gen1 car, jcw was add on bits...bolt ons...upgrades...
late in gen1 there was a gen1 factory kit...only real diff if i remember right was aero kit was different.
All vins were the same...basic engine kit was what most folks consider to be a jcw car...had a serial #, and a data plate...other things, aero kit, brakes, spoiler, dash and interior bits are just parts...
 
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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Remember...who installed the motor kit (change was (on late gen1 jcw) a sc that had a smaller pulley, programming, jcw380 injectors, exhaust...the same kit as the full jcw210 kit...older jcws could get the same upgrade...ecu update too....and intake....did not make a pgysical differance...
if you look at mototingfile.com, threr should be bunch of info might take some digging...but good library info in the articles....
 
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tremelune
...I'm looking to purchase a very specific car, and I'm trying to sort through the numerous options and aftermarket stuff...
Are you:

a) trying to vet/establish provenance for a particular car
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b) trying to purchase a car with a specific set of features

If b) telling us what you're looking for would help.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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I'm basically looking for a Mini, as fast as they come stock, but I tend to prefer the more "raw" nature of the R53. I'm more or less trying to figure out what to search for to purchase.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 01:50 PM
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Maybe the 2006 JCW GP is what you're looking for...
 
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 01:51 PM
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Too ugly.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2013 | 06:27 AM
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Then get a GP, with the rear wing swapped to a std r53...
or simply get the most LIGHTLY optioned r53 with the JCW 210 (makes it a 2005+ car) package....part of the things that make the gp fast is limited weight, and a slightly bigger ic and a more agressive factory tune....
And since you want "fast" and the car is 7+ years old, engine condition is very important....
 
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Old Feb 9, 2013 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Tremelune
Too ugly.
What part of it? When the GP was introduced, a lot of people complained that it hardly looked different from a regular R53. If you are truly looking for "as fast as they come stock" in R53, the GP is it.
 
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