General MINI Talk Shared experiences, motoring minutes, and other general MINI-related discussion that applies to all MINIs, regardless of model, year or trim.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Myth or fact about color?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 9, 2012 | 07:38 AM
  #1  
shmini's Avatar
shmini
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: Wisconsin
Myth or fact about color?

Does the color of the car, in particular the roof, really affect the temperature of the cabin?
 
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2012 | 07:48 AM
  #2  
ACallahan's Avatar
ACallahan
5th Gear
iTrader: (6)
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,046
Likes: 4
From: Florida
I know a white roof should reflect sun and heat better than black that I know absorbs heat.
 
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2012 | 08:24 AM
  #3  
Mib4840's Avatar
Mib4840
6th Gear
10 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,265
Likes: 8
From: Arizona
I live in Scottsdale Arizona, I did a test where I put a thermometer inside the vehicles on the dash with the windows up. I did it in the following color vehicles on the same day, red, silver, black and olive. The temperature out side was 104. The inside temperature on the vehicles was 143-148. The black vehicle was the hottest. But as you can see the temps aren't that far apart. In my opinion after you reach 115 it's hard to tell a difference in temperature. The temperature did fluctuate by one degree. My vehicles that had sunroofs had solid closures so that was not a factor. Hopefully this helps.
 
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2012 | 10:37 AM
  #4  
Btwyx's Avatar
Btwyx
6th Gear
iTrader: (2)
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 3,535
Likes: 3
From: Mountain View, CA
We have one with a White roof, one with a Black roof and live in Sunny California. I've never noticed a difference.
 
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2012 | 12:13 PM
  #5  
89AKurt's Avatar
89AKurt
6th Gear
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 12,295
Likes: 1
From: Prescott, AZ, USA
I thought this thread was going to be about how Chili Red always makes cops pull you over. Or that the MINI BRG isn't true, but metallic. Or that black is more stealthy.

Check out this: Black Roof + Warm Climate = bad idea?
 
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2012 | 02:54 PM
  #6  
shmini's Avatar
shmini
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: Wisconsin
Those are FACTS, not myths!
:-)
 
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2012 | 09:45 AM
  #7  
MrCooperS's Avatar
MrCooperS
Moderator
iTrader: (4)
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,457
Likes: 7
From: Boston, MA.
Didn't they test this on MythBusters?
 
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2012 | 10:28 AM
  #8  
maxxboy's Avatar
maxxboy
3rd Gear
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 232
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Mib4840

I did a test where I put a thermometer inside the vehicles on the dash with the windows up. I did it in the following color vehicles on the same day, red, silver, black and olive. The temperature out side was 104. The inside temperature on the vehicles was 143-148. The black vehicle was the hottest. But as you can see the temps aren't that far apart.
I did this several years ago during a club event. We did a white roof/black roof comparison of several MINIs and found the black roof MINIs got around 2-3 degrees hotter.
 
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2012 | 12:53 PM
  #9  
theging's Avatar
theging
3rd Gear
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 208
Likes: 0
From: Winter Park, FL
Originally Posted by MrCooperS
Didn't they test this on MythBusters?
yes they did.
 
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2012 | 01:47 PM
  #10  
Llanrhaeadr_Cymru's Avatar
Llanrhaeadr_Cymru
4th Gear
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 488
Likes: 11
From: District of West Augusta
Busted, plausible or confirmed? Do you recall?
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2012 | 08:27 AM
  #11  
mziol's Avatar
mziol
2nd Gear
iTrader: (4)
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 112
Likes: 1
From: NH
Originally Posted by Llanrhaeadr_Cymru
Busted, plausible or confirmed? Do you recall?

http://mythbustersresults.com/episode38

SPINOFF: A black car heats up faster than an identical white car. (From Pilot 2)

confirmed
A fan wrote in and asked a follow up question: "Does the color of a car affect the way it heats up?". The MythBusters used two identical cars, one black the other white and left them both out in the summer heat with thermometers in both. By mid-afternoon the black car had heated up to a temperature of 135 °F while the white car topped off at 126 °F, almost 10 degrees cooler.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2012 | 09:18 AM
  #12  
Porthos's Avatar
Porthos
OVERDRIVE
iTrader: (8)
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,455
Likes: 14
From: None yours!
Honestly anything over a 100F does not matter you really are not going to be able to feel the difference. Now if it is like 90F in the cabin with a black roof and 80F with a white roof then that matters.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2012 | 10:19 AM
  #13  
mziol's Avatar
mziol
2nd Gear
iTrader: (4)
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 112
Likes: 1
From: NH
Originally Posted by Porthos
Honestly anything over a 100F does not matter you really are not going to be able to feel the difference. Now if it is like 90F in the cabin with a black roof and 80F with a white roof then that matters.

Exactly^

However, you're still most likely facing that temperature gradient either way. It would be good to see a graph of the two cars and if there is a linear increase in temperature. If that was the case, the color would be something to consider. If it ramps up at a much higher temperature (above 100 as Porthos said) then I wouldn't worry about it at all.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2012 | 10:55 AM
  #14  
e46jb's Avatar
e46jb
4th Gear
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Canada
This is a really subjective conversation......of course the darker colored car will attract more heat, but does that heat actually radiate through the insulation and metallic surfaces?

The point or location of thermometer would be the variable to take into consideration. If the thermometer was placed on the dash, it really would depend on the location, color of dash and how long the sun is in contact with the thermometer.

If you were to place the thermometer on the headliner directly below where a sunroof would be, then this would be the best test
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2012 | 11:39 AM
  #15  
Porthos's Avatar
Porthos
OVERDRIVE
iTrader: (8)
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,455
Likes: 14
From: None yours!
There was a news report I watched years ago about exterior car color and interior car color. If I am not mistaken the interior color has more to do with it then the exterior. Well really the combination of interior and exterior color as a lot to do with it. I really wish I could remember everything or where to find it because they were reporting 15f to 20f differences.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2012 | 12:16 PM
  #16  
Llanrhaeadr_Cymru's Avatar
Llanrhaeadr_Cymru
4th Gear
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 488
Likes: 11
From: District of West Augusta
Found this interesting link in another NAM thread:

http://www.racq.com.au/__data/assets...re_in_Cars.pdf
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2012 | 01:12 PM
  #17  
MacKai's Avatar
MacKai
Neutral
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Mythbusters

the Mythbusters did this one and came up with about a 10 degree difference

check out episode 38
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2012 | 06:49 PM
  #18  
KMPSSBL's Avatar
KMPSSBL
4th Gear
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 307
Likes: 0
From: North Phoenix, AZ
I live in AZ as well, and when it's HOT as HELL outside, it don't matter no more what color your roof is! I have a white roof with a sun roof too lol
 
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2012 | 07:15 AM
  #19  
oldsbear's Avatar
oldsbear
6th Gear
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,488
Likes: 0
From: Coralville, Iowa
Originally Posted by Llanrhaeadr_Cymru
Found this interesting link in another NAM thread:

http://www.racq.com.au/__data/assets...re_in_Cars.pdf
We deal in opinion here. We don' need no stinkin' data

Actually: that's a very interesting, thorough study. I can say that because it vindicates my black-roofed MINIs
 
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2012 | 08:04 AM
  #20  
MINIdave's Avatar
MINIdave
6th Gear
15 Year Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 3,790
Likes: 10
From: Kansas City
I think the sunroof is a bigger factor......my '03 had one and it was hot in there, my '09 Clubby does not and it's much more comfortable on a hot summer day - both had/have body colored roofs - electric blue on the '03 and lazer blue on the '09.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
M7Speed
1st Gen Countryman (R60) Talk (2010-2015)
1
Aug 18, 2015 05:18 AM
M7Speed
JCW Garage
0
Aug 14, 2015 01:50 PM
M7Speed
JCW Garage
0
Aug 14, 2015 01:46 PM
M7Speed
R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+)
0
Aug 14, 2015 01:45 PM
Emnotek
Vendor Announcements
0
Aug 13, 2015 05:47 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:00 AM.