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Old May 30, 2012 | 10:39 AM
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Fog lights as DRL

Would it be possible to make the fog lights as DRL. I don't want the low beam to turn on during the day time. This would be cool feature if can code this.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 10:55 AM
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Doubt it, the laws are pretty clear of when they are to be used (although nobody follows it here in the USA) and I doubt that a dealer would even be willing to consider it. I believe they are also wired in with the lights so that they can only be turned on when the lights are on.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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it could be done with some relays and thought

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Would it be possible to make the fog lights as DRL. I don't want the low beam to turn on during the day time. This would be cool feature if can code this.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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the fog lights do indeed work without the heads on. or at least I think they do? I was driving through a daylight saftey area and hit the button and saw the lights reflected off the car in front of me. headlights were in "auto" and I dont think they were on.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 02:06 PM
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I will be playing with the FRM module and get back to you guys.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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fog light can go on with parking lights on
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JPMM
it could be done with some relays and thought

disconnect the power to them, might need to install some type of resistor ( or bulb out error code will pop up)
install a relay/switch and power them up with it

In my wife 05 mini I did it with the driving lights.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 05:45 PM
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@icuc,

Probably best to pursue the FRM module changes in the R60 Modifications Electrical forum. Look in the Countryman-Specific Coding - R60 thread. Check out my NCS Expert directed question HERE.

HTH,
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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Should have stated "anything can be done", however, it won't be a dealer programming and will likely require you to re-wire the lights and maybe add your own switch. Fog lights do not work without at least parking lights on. They will not work with only DRLs. This is pretty standard in any car with fogs and I believe is a law.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by daflake
Should have stated "anything can be done", however, it won't be a dealer programming and will likely require you to re-wire the lights and maybe add your own switch. Fog lights do not work without at least parking lights on. They will not work with only DRLs. This is pretty standard in any car with fogs and I believe is a law.
This has been done (using the city lights as DRLs) without wiring using NCS Expert on a 2008 R56. Since the R60 uses much of the software and has many of the same NCS Expert settings as the R56, this may be possible on a 2011-12 R60. Not sure that the actual fogs can be used, but I see the R60 settings for the city lights (SML lights).
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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My headlights, bumper lights and taillights are on all the time. Perhaps this is a Canadian thing since we require DRL's on all the time.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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@icuc,

Probably best to pursue the FRM module changes in the R60 Modifications Electrical forum. Look in the Countryman-Specific Coding - R60 thread. Check out my NCS Expert directed question HERE.

HTH,
@Koopah,

I tried as you said but city light didn't turn on as DRL :(
 
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Old May 31, 2012 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Koopah
This has been done (using the city lights as DRLs) without wiring using NCS Expert on a 2008 R56. Since the R60 uses much of the software and has many of the same NCS Expert settings as the R56, this may be possible on a 2011-12 R60. Not sure that the actual fogs can be used, but I see the R60 settings for the city lights (SML lights).
Umm, if the fogs don't come on then it hasn't been done, he didn't ask for Parking/city lights. However, good for you guys on trying.
 
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Old May 31, 2012 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by daflake
Should have stated "anything can be done", however, it won't be a dealer programming and will likely require you to re-wire the lights and maybe add your own switch. Fog lights do not work without at least parking lights on. They will not work with only DRLs. This is pretty standard in any car with fogs and I believe is a law.
I have seen couple of Acura MDX with just fog lights as DRL. I don't know about the law here in US but seen many cars with Fog lights only.
 
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Old May 31, 2012 | 08:51 AM
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Umm, if the fogs don't come on then it hasn't been done, he didn't ask for Parking/city lights. However, good for you guys on trying.
Indeed! He did state fog lights which, to my knowledge, have never been linked to the DRL via settings changes. There may be a shot at the city lights though, albeit with more NCS research on "DRL", "TFL" and "SML" in the trace files.
 
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Old May 31, 2012 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by icuc
I have seen couple of Acura MDX with just fog lights as DRL. I don't know about the law here in US but seen many cars with Fog lights only.

More than likely you have a law against running fogs unless there is fog. However, nobody follows the laws here in the USA anyway and they are rarely enforced. In other countries, Germany for instance, you wouldn't make it around the block without getting a ticket.

Just remember, just because others are doing it doesn't make it legal.
 
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