R56 Need help with buying a "new" company used 2010 MCS.
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Need help with buying a "new" company used 2010 MCS.
Saw a 2010 mcs at a dealer today. The sticker price is right around 29k and they are selling it for 24k. Later found out it already has 7k + miles on it. The salesperson told me it is still considered as "new" since it has never been licensed and it was only driven by company executives.
Since they are offering 4k off on all 2010 models (says on their website). That means they are only giving about additional 1k off given the miles on the car.
Is this a good deal or you guys think there is still room for negotiation? The car was started in service about 6 months ago which means 6 months of maintainence free program and warranty have also been used up. Also, is there a chance that the car has ever been abused?
Please provide your insights on this one.
Regards.
Since they are offering 4k off on all 2010 models (says on their website). That means they are only giving about additional 1k off given the miles on the car.
Is this a good deal or you guys think there is still room for negotiation? The car was started in service about 6 months ago which means 6 months of maintainence free program and warranty have also been used up. Also, is there a chance that the car has ever been abused?
Please provide your insights on this one.
Regards.
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I bought one of these too!
a 2010 likewise. Really loaded (other than the base Boost stereo) in spite of having Lounge seats, real LSD, and many other goodies. Quite happy w/ purchase.
Likewise I thought it was overpriced when I saw it. A year old car with some miles should arguably be down up to 20% from current year list and it just wasn't priced that way. Long story short, at prices not too far off what you are suggesting I moved them down another $2000 or so. My starting offer was a straight 20% off the new sticker, and I told them flat out delivery charges were irrelevant in my calculus in any used car (which they tried to throw into the comparison). Just stayed low key and firm. For the numbers and option specs I was dealing with (likely more loaded yet than the one you are scoping out), it meant I basically started at a price reduction of $3K off their ask and settled at $2K.
If you care about order of battle, I opened at $3K under, after jawboning I liked car but it was "overpriced" and with salesman quickly signaling they would deal. They countered at $1K down. I said straight no. Then I moved up $1,000 in one move to try to close it, knowing my first number was aggressive for a dealer car. They came down by $1500. I held at $2K under saying I was done (and it was near closing time); on that third round they accepted. Final deal to original sticker was somewhat over 15% off original new price as I recall, and car had literally every factory option other than better stereo and an automatic). I think best arguments were 2011's didn't have a price increase (dealer tried that argument, but net of option changes they really didn't), 2011's have some nice clean up improvements, the car had some options the market typically puts little value in (like $500 for rear only parking sensors). Pointing out the hood hinges looked tinkered with unnerved them too--my actual sense is it was just aligned a bit, and I have since found underhood paint in Chile red rubs off with even lightest chemicals like rubbing alcohol--my guess is they cleaned off the wax/cosmoline near hinges and paint ended up thin. Did put them on defensive in non confrontational way about how "new" it was, but knowing cars and examining it very carefully I concluded there was no original or repaired damage. Carfax was clean of course, but I don't take those as Gospel by a fair margin.
Finally, it is NOT a new car. Miles are miles. (the one I bought had 4500 on it in 11 months of use). While not registered, of course the miles and in service months cut back the warranty period. On the other hand, figure its a demo car or an internally used business car. Given almost all demo rides in this era are supervised, I figure per mile driven if it was a demo, abuse is no worse than average private ownership. If actually used as a house vehicle, then no different than any other average driver.
Net, very happy with it. Just be tough on price, do your homework and be prepared to walk. The last point may well be the one that gets you the sale, depending on how they read you and how hungry they are that day or week.
Likewise I thought it was overpriced when I saw it. A year old car with some miles should arguably be down up to 20% from current year list and it just wasn't priced that way. Long story short, at prices not too far off what you are suggesting I moved them down another $2000 or so. My starting offer was a straight 20% off the new sticker, and I told them flat out delivery charges were irrelevant in my calculus in any used car (which they tried to throw into the comparison). Just stayed low key and firm. For the numbers and option specs I was dealing with (likely more loaded yet than the one you are scoping out), it meant I basically started at a price reduction of $3K off their ask and settled at $2K.
If you care about order of battle, I opened at $3K under, after jawboning I liked car but it was "overpriced" and with salesman quickly signaling they would deal. They countered at $1K down. I said straight no. Then I moved up $1,000 in one move to try to close it, knowing my first number was aggressive for a dealer car. They came down by $1500. I held at $2K under saying I was done (and it was near closing time); on that third round they accepted. Final deal to original sticker was somewhat over 15% off original new price as I recall, and car had literally every factory option other than better stereo and an automatic). I think best arguments were 2011's didn't have a price increase (dealer tried that argument, but net of option changes they really didn't), 2011's have some nice clean up improvements, the car had some options the market typically puts little value in (like $500 for rear only parking sensors). Pointing out the hood hinges looked tinkered with unnerved them too--my actual sense is it was just aligned a bit, and I have since found underhood paint in Chile red rubs off with even lightest chemicals like rubbing alcohol--my guess is they cleaned off the wax/cosmoline near hinges and paint ended up thin. Did put them on defensive in non confrontational way about how "new" it was, but knowing cars and examining it very carefully I concluded there was no original or repaired damage. Carfax was clean of course, but I don't take those as Gospel by a fair margin.
Finally, it is NOT a new car. Miles are miles. (the one I bought had 4500 on it in 11 months of use). While not registered, of course the miles and in service months cut back the warranty period. On the other hand, figure its a demo car or an internally used business car. Given almost all demo rides in this era are supervised, I figure per mile driven if it was a demo, abuse is no worse than average private ownership. If actually used as a house vehicle, then no different than any other average driver.
Net, very happy with it. Just be tough on price, do your homework and be prepared to walk. The last point may well be the one that gets you the sale, depending on how they read you and how hungry they are that day or week.
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a 2010 likewise. Really loaded (other than the base Boost stereo) in spite of having Lounge seats, real LSD, and many other goodies. Quite happy w/ purchase.
Likewise I thought it was overpriced when I saw it. A year old car with some miles should arguably be down up to 20% from current year list and it just wasn't priced that way. Long story short, at prices not too far off what you are suggesting I moved them down another $2000 or so. My starting offer was a straight 20% off the new sticker, and I told them flat out delivery charges were irrelevant in my calculus in any used car (which they tried to throw into the comparison). Just stayed low key and firm. For the numbers and option specs I was dealing with (likely more loaded yet than the one you are scoping out), it meant I basically started at a price reduction of $3K off their ask and settled at $2K.
If you care about order of battle, I opened at $3K under, after jawboning I liked car but it was "overpriced" and with salesman quickly signaling they would deal. They countered at $1K down. I said straight no. Then I moved up $1,000 in one move to try to close it, knowing my first number was aggressive for a dealer car. They came down by $1500. I held at $2K under saying I was done (and it was near closing time); on that third round they accepted. Final deal to original sticker was somewhat over 15% off original new price as I recall, and car had literally every factory option other than better stereo and an automatic). I think best arguments were 2011's didn't have a price increase (dealer tried that argument, but net of option changes they really didn't), 2011's have some nice clean up improvements, the car had some options the market typically puts little value in (like $500 for rear only parking sensors). Pointing out the hood hinges looked tinkered with unnerved them too--my actual sense is it was just aligned a bit, and I have since found underhood paint in Chile red rubs off with even lightest chemicals like rubbing alcohol--my guess is they cleaned off the wax/cosmoline near hinges and paint ended up thin. Did put them on defensive in non confrontational way about how "new" it was, but knowing cars and examining it very carefully I concluded there was no original or repaired damage. Carfax was clean of course, but I don't take those as Gospel by a fair margin.
Finally, it is NOT a new car. Miles are miles. (the one I bought had 4500 on it in 11 months of use). While not registered, of course the miles and in service months cut back the warranty period. On the other hand, figure its a demo car or an internally used business car. Given almost all demo rides in this era are supervised, I figure per mile driven if it was a demo, abuse is no worse than average private ownership. If actually used as a house vehicle, then no different than any other average driver.
Net, very happy with it. Just be tough on price, do your homework and be prepared to walk. The last point may well be the one that gets you the sale, depending on how they read you and how hungry they are that day or week.
Likewise I thought it was overpriced when I saw it. A year old car with some miles should arguably be down up to 20% from current year list and it just wasn't priced that way. Long story short, at prices not too far off what you are suggesting I moved them down another $2000 or so. My starting offer was a straight 20% off the new sticker, and I told them flat out delivery charges were irrelevant in my calculus in any used car (which they tried to throw into the comparison). Just stayed low key and firm. For the numbers and option specs I was dealing with (likely more loaded yet than the one you are scoping out), it meant I basically started at a price reduction of $3K off their ask and settled at $2K.
If you care about order of battle, I opened at $3K under, after jawboning I liked car but it was "overpriced" and with salesman quickly signaling they would deal. They countered at $1K down. I said straight no. Then I moved up $1,000 in one move to try to close it, knowing my first number was aggressive for a dealer car. They came down by $1500. I held at $2K under saying I was done (and it was near closing time); on that third round they accepted. Final deal to original sticker was somewhat over 15% off original new price as I recall, and car had literally every factory option other than better stereo and an automatic). I think best arguments were 2011's didn't have a price increase (dealer tried that argument, but net of option changes they really didn't), 2011's have some nice clean up improvements, the car had some options the market typically puts little value in (like $500 for rear only parking sensors). Pointing out the hood hinges looked tinkered with unnerved them too--my actual sense is it was just aligned a bit, and I have since found underhood paint in Chile red rubs off with even lightest chemicals like rubbing alcohol--my guess is they cleaned off the wax/cosmoline near hinges and paint ended up thin. Did put them on defensive in non confrontational way about how "new" it was, but knowing cars and examining it very carefully I concluded there was no original or repaired damage. Carfax was clean of course, but I don't take those as Gospel by a fair margin.
Finally, it is NOT a new car. Miles are miles. (the one I bought had 4500 on it in 11 months of use). While not registered, of course the miles and in service months cut back the warranty period. On the other hand, figure its a demo car or an internally used business car. Given almost all demo rides in this era are supervised, I figure per mile driven if it was a demo, abuse is no worse than average private ownership. If actually used as a house vehicle, then no different than any other average driver.
Net, very happy with it. Just be tough on price, do your homework and be prepared to walk. The last point may well be the one that gets you the sale, depending on how they read you and how hungry they are that day or week.
May I ask how much you got yours for? Since yours is also loaded, hat could help me decide the starting point of my negotiation with the dealer.
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So MP1.6T:
Do you mean that you closed the deal at around 15% off the original MSRP or off the price they were asking (sales price)?
The sales price of the one I am looking at is already around 20% off the MSRP.
Thanks!
Do you mean that you closed the deal at around 15% off the original MSRP or off the price they were asking (sales price)?
The sales price of the one I am looking at is already around 20% off the MSRP.
Thanks!
a 2010 likewise. Really loaded (other than the base Boost stereo) in spite of having Lounge seats, real LSD, and many other goodies. Quite happy w/ purchase.
Likewise I thought it was overpriced when I saw it. A year old car with some miles should arguably be down up to 20% from current year list and it just wasn't priced that way. Long story short, at prices not too far off what you are suggesting I moved them down another $2000 or so. My starting offer was a straight 20% off the new sticker, and I told them flat out delivery charges were irrelevant in my calculus in any used car (which they tried to throw into the comparison). Just stayed low key and firm. For the numbers and option specs I was dealing with (likely more loaded yet than the one you are scoping out), it meant I basically started at a price reduction of $3K off their ask and settled at $2K.
If you care about order of battle, I opened at $3K under, after jawboning I liked car but it was "overpriced" and with salesman quickly signaling they would deal. They countered at $1K down. I said straight no. Then I moved up $1,000 in one move to try to close it, knowing my first number was aggressive for a dealer car. They came down by $1500. I held at $2K under saying I was done (and it was near closing time); on that third round they accepted. Final deal to original sticker was somewhat over 15% off original new price as I recall, and car had literally every factory option other than better stereo and an automatic). I think best arguments were 2011's didn't have a price increase (dealer tried that argument, but net of option changes they really didn't), 2011's have some nice clean up improvements, the car had some options the market typically puts little value in (like $500 for rear only parking sensors). Pointing out the hood hinges looked tinkered with unnerved them too--my actual sense is it was just aligned a bit, and I have since found underhood paint in Chile red rubs off with even lightest chemicals like rubbing alcohol--my guess is they cleaned off the wax/cosmoline near hinges and paint ended up thin. Did put them on defensive in non confrontational way about how "new" it was, but knowing cars and examining it very carefully I concluded there was no original or repaired damage. Carfax was clean of course, but I don't take those as Gospel by a fair margin.
Finally, it is NOT a new car. Miles are miles. (the one I bought had 4500 on it in 11 months of use). While not registered, of course the miles and in service months cut back the warranty period. On the other hand, figure its a demo car or an internally used business car. Given almost all demo rides in this era are supervised, I figure per mile driven if it was a demo, abuse is no worse than average private ownership. If actually used as a house vehicle, then no different than any other average driver.
Net, very happy with it. Just be tough on price, do your homework and be prepared to walk. The last point may well be the one that gets you the sale, depending on how they read you and how hungry they are that day or week.
Likewise I thought it was overpriced when I saw it. A year old car with some miles should arguably be down up to 20% from current year list and it just wasn't priced that way. Long story short, at prices not too far off what you are suggesting I moved them down another $2000 or so. My starting offer was a straight 20% off the new sticker, and I told them flat out delivery charges were irrelevant in my calculus in any used car (which they tried to throw into the comparison). Just stayed low key and firm. For the numbers and option specs I was dealing with (likely more loaded yet than the one you are scoping out), it meant I basically started at a price reduction of $3K off their ask and settled at $2K.
If you care about order of battle, I opened at $3K under, after jawboning I liked car but it was "overpriced" and with salesman quickly signaling they would deal. They countered at $1K down. I said straight no. Then I moved up $1,000 in one move to try to close it, knowing my first number was aggressive for a dealer car. They came down by $1500. I held at $2K under saying I was done (and it was near closing time); on that third round they accepted. Final deal to original sticker was somewhat over 15% off original new price as I recall, and car had literally every factory option other than better stereo and an automatic). I think best arguments were 2011's didn't have a price increase (dealer tried that argument, but net of option changes they really didn't), 2011's have some nice clean up improvements, the car had some options the market typically puts little value in (like $500 for rear only parking sensors). Pointing out the hood hinges looked tinkered with unnerved them too--my actual sense is it was just aligned a bit, and I have since found underhood paint in Chile red rubs off with even lightest chemicals like rubbing alcohol--my guess is they cleaned off the wax/cosmoline near hinges and paint ended up thin. Did put them on defensive in non confrontational way about how "new" it was, but knowing cars and examining it very carefully I concluded there was no original or repaired damage. Carfax was clean of course, but I don't take those as Gospel by a fair margin.
Finally, it is NOT a new car. Miles are miles. (the one I bought had 4500 on it in 11 months of use). While not registered, of course the miles and in service months cut back the warranty period. On the other hand, figure its a demo car or an internally used business car. Given almost all demo rides in this era are supervised, I figure per mile driven if it was a demo, abuse is no worse than average private ownership. If actually used as a house vehicle, then no different than any other average driver.
Net, very happy with it. Just be tough on price, do your homework and be prepared to walk. The last point may well be the one that gets you the sale, depending on how they read you and how hungry they are that day or week.
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Numbers per your question
Closed at 27K even. Car sticker was $32,350 PLUS $700 destination charge = $33,050. Had a $100 set of mini mats too that happened to be in it that I don't think are standard. Exterior body and wheels were virtually perfect; went over it very carefully. You decide which denominator to use, but it's a little more than 18% off full sticker. Looks like you are maybe at about 17% so far? I can't tell if the sticker number you mention is with or w/ out destination, which swings % a bit and absolute dollars off more. Car had 4500 miles and it was two months ago (i.e. 2011's were just coming in at the time and most cars on floor were 2010's, while as of a couple of weeks ago when I was there they were mostly 2011's on the floor (as in, 2010's should arguably now drop somewhat more)).
Car had convenience, cold weather, premium 2 and sport packages; plus lounge leather, anthracite head liner, sport suspension, LSD, factory alarm, chrome mirror caps, PDC, rear fog, HD radio, sat radio, phone integration; again most everything on the factory option list other than HK stereo [and it seemed odd who ever spec'ed it omitted that after all the other stuff] and Nav. Thus about as high as the sticker gets pre-loaded JCW. It's a stick. Other than no H-K, it was 100% of my spec down to the interior details and even color, so it was a preferred purchase choice in general.
Car had convenience, cold weather, premium 2 and sport packages; plus lounge leather, anthracite head liner, sport suspension, LSD, factory alarm, chrome mirror caps, PDC, rear fog, HD radio, sat radio, phone integration; again most everything on the factory option list other than HK stereo [and it seemed odd who ever spec'ed it omitted that after all the other stuff] and Nav. Thus about as high as the sticker gets pre-loaded JCW. It's a stick. Other than no H-K, it was 100% of my spec down to the interior details and even color, so it was a preferred purchase choice in general.
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If its got everything you want and you can get all the money off it could be a great deal. I agree, its a used car, but not on paper 
If you are purchasing it it will still be "a one owner" when you sell, if you want it to be.
Usually the sales managers or whoever is Demo'ing it treat them well. I detailed cars for a Honda dealership and always had to reprep the Demos for the lot (they went 5K miles on thiers). They were always still pretty much new in every way unless the guy was a smoker... But there are ozone machines and whatnot for that (as long as they didnt burn anything)
Also when I mean Demo, they only got driven by the one person (basically a company car). Not sure how Mini does it, or if they are open to test drives or whatnot
If you are purchasing it it will still be "a one owner" when you sell, if you want it to be.Usually the sales managers or whoever is Demo'ing it treat them well. I detailed cars for a Honda dealership and always had to reprep the Demos for the lot (they went 5K miles on thiers). They were always still pretty much new in every way unless the guy was a smoker... But there are ozone machines and whatnot for that (as long as they didnt burn anything)
Also when I mean Demo, they only got driven by the one person (basically a company car). Not sure how Mini does it, or if they are open to test drives or whatnot
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If its got everything you want and you can get all the money off it could be a great deal. I agree, its a used car, but not on paper If you are purchasing it it will still be "a one owner" when you sell, if you want it to be.
Usually the sales managers or whoever is Demo'ing it treat them well. I detailed cars for a Honda dealership and always had to reprep the Demos for the lot (they went 5K miles on thiers). They were always still pretty much new in every way unless the guy was a smoker... But there are ozone machines and whatnot for that (as long as they didnt burn anything)
Also when I mean Demo, they only got driven by the one person (basically a company car). Not sure how Mini does it, or if they are open to test drives or whatnot
If you are purchasing it it will still be "a one owner" when you sell, if you want it to be.Usually the sales managers or whoever is Demo'ing it treat them well. I detailed cars for a Honda dealership and always had to reprep the Demos for the lot (they went 5K miles on thiers). They were always still pretty much new in every way unless the guy was a smoker... But there are ozone machines and whatnot for that (as long as they didnt burn anything)
Also when I mean Demo, they only got driven by the one person (basically a company car). Not sure how Mini does it, or if they are open to test drives or whatnot
Thanks for your reply. So you do think 5k off the sticker price is a good deal? I just wanna get idea whether I should do some more aggressive negotiation.
What about the service/warranty? Don't they kick in at the point of the sale? But according to the salesperson, they started the service/warranty when the car was put in use by the company.
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Jay
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Closed at 27K even. Car sticker was $32,350 PLUS $700 destination charge = $33,050. Had a $100 set of mini mats too that happened to be in it that I don't think are standard. Exterior body and wheels were virtually perfect; went over it very carefully. You decide which denominator to use, but it's a little more than 18% off full sticker. Looks like you are maybe at about 17% so far? I can't tell if the sticker number you mention is with or w/ out destination, which swings % a bit and absolute dollars off more. Car had 4500 miles and it was two months ago (i.e. 2011's were just coming in at the time and most cars on floor were 2010's, while as of a couple of weeks ago when I was there they were mostly 2011's on the floor (as in, 2010's should arguably now drop somewhat more)).
Car had convenience, cold weather, premium 2 and sport packages; plus lounge leather, anthracite head liner, sport suspension, LSD, factory alarm, chrome mirror caps, PDC, rear fog, HD radio, sat radio, phone integration; again most everything on the factory option list other than HK stereo [and it seemed odd who ever spec'ed it omitted that after all the other stuff] and Nav. Thus about as high as the sticker gets pre-loaded JCW. It's a stick. Other than no H-K, it was 100% of my spec down to the interior details and even color, so it was a preferred purchase choice in general.
Car had convenience, cold weather, premium 2 and sport packages; plus lounge leather, anthracite head liner, sport suspension, LSD, factory alarm, chrome mirror caps, PDC, rear fog, HD radio, sat radio, phone integration; again most everything on the factory option list other than HK stereo [and it seemed odd who ever spec'ed it omitted that after all the other stuff] and Nav. Thus about as high as the sticker gets pre-loaded JCW. It's a stick. Other than no H-K, it was 100% of my spec down to the interior details and even color, so it was a preferred purchase choice in general.
I appreciate your reply and congrats on your purchase! Since they are already offering 17% off the sticker price, I am wondering if I should be as aggressive as you when I do my first-round negotiation, for example, ask for another 3k off. That would be asking for about 27% off the sticker price. What do you think my starting offer should be. I still think there is room for negotiation, but I dont want to offend the salesperson by asking for too much of a discount.
Regards.
Jay
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I bought an "executive demo" back in late '06. It had things on it I wouldn't have ordered, but most of what I wanted was included.
The dealer was definitely bargaining, trying to get me to buy (which I finally did!). There is likely some "wiggle room" in the negotiating process.
In California, at least, it was considered a used car. Never registered in the state, but was, apparently done so in NJ, where HQ is located. My '06 MCS has 4500 miles (or so) and was spotless. I got no extra 4500 miles on the factory warranty. No biggy, as it was rock solid. I loved that car, and was sad to have to sell it, and replace it with a 2010 MCSa. Bad knee meant no more clutch work day in and day out. sigh.
Good luck with yours, and hoping that your dealer gives good service, too.
The dealer was definitely bargaining, trying to get me to buy (which I finally did!). There is likely some "wiggle room" in the negotiating process.
In California, at least, it was considered a used car. Never registered in the state, but was, apparently done so in NJ, where HQ is located. My '06 MCS has 4500 miles (or so) and was spotless. I got no extra 4500 miles on the factory warranty. No biggy, as it was rock solid. I loved that car, and was sad to have to sell it, and replace it with a 2010 MCSa. Bad knee meant no more clutch work day in and day out. sigh.
Good luck with yours, and hoping that your dealer gives good service, too.
Yeah it cant hurt to try and knock a little more off! Overall it sounds like a solid deal. In the end if you really like the options/color, then why not.
Warranty will still be there, and the free maintainance is a joke anyway.
Warranty will still be there, and the free maintainance is a joke anyway.
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27% off just sounds like too much.
Mini's hold value reasonably, at least early. I would probably go down to the next even round thousand number in the low 20% off range. Run some Edmonds and KBB used car value estimates though for private party sales (yes, even though its a dealer) to know what is a good buy price for the options and miles involved.
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Depends on where you're at as well. Mini's hold value real well in the Austin area, so this kinda made haggling difficult for me. I wound up holding out to long on a good deal similar to the one your looking at and somebody else snatched it up on me... Wound up getting an '06 instead.
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Food for thought, and might not apply in your neck of the woods.
I picked up my 2010 Clubman JCW in late October 2010. The dealership was trying to move out the remaining 2010s and some 2009s it still had in its inventory. According to them, MINI USA gave them the go-ahead to mark some of their cars down. MSRP on my Clubman was $38K even, they had reduced it by $4500. This car only had ~50 miles on it when I bought it, and 1/2 of that was from me test driving it. I got a bit more off between being a return buyer and a coupon from MTTS, but still - $4500 off to begin with.
So what I guess I'm saying is, my dealer did one heck of a markdown, and this was a new, never titled, never in-use other than a demo drive here and there. Compared to your description... I think you may be able to get a bit more off. Or, have them extend the warranty an extra 6 months.
Good luck!
I picked up my 2010 Clubman JCW in late October 2010. The dealership was trying to move out the remaining 2010s and some 2009s it still had in its inventory. According to them, MINI USA gave them the go-ahead to mark some of their cars down. MSRP on my Clubman was $38K even, they had reduced it by $4500. This car only had ~50 miles on it when I bought it, and 1/2 of that was from me test driving it. I got a bit more off between being a return buyer and a coupon from MTTS, but still - $4500 off to begin with.
So what I guess I'm saying is, my dealer did one heck of a markdown, and this was a new, never titled, never in-use other than a demo drive here and there. Compared to your description... I think you may be able to get a bit more off. Or, have them extend the warranty an extra 6 months.
Good luck!
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