Stock Problems/Issues Discussions related to warranty related issues and repairs, or other problems with the OEM parts and software for MINI Cooper (R50), Cabrio (R52), and Cooper S (R53) MINIs.

P/S pump fan protector-does it really work?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 19, 2010 | 04:04 PM
  #1  
Audi refugee's Avatar
Audi refugee
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
P/S pump fan protector-does it really work?

I have an '04 R53 with approx' 107 km (65 miles?). It's still on its original p/s pump with no issues. I'd like to prolong its life further and am considering investing in the metal pump fan protector sold buy Outmotoring:

http://www.outmotoring.com/mini-coop...protector.html

Does it really work and prevent failures? Has anyone on here experienced a p/s pump failure while equipped with one of these?

Thanks.
 
Reply
Old Sep 19, 2010 | 04:46 PM
  #2  
Rich.Wolfson's Avatar
Rich.Wolfson
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,266
Likes: 3
From: Northern New Jersey
Originally Posted by Audi refugee
I have an '04 R53 with approx' 107 km (65 miles?). It's still on its original p/s pump with no issues. I'd like to prolong its life further and am considering investing in the metal pump fan protector sold buy Outmotoring:... Has anyone on here experienced a p/s pump failure while equipped with one of these?
This is a simple shield to prevent anything from getting in the fan. It clearly can't hurt. But if you want to prolong the fan, the Power Steering Fan Duct & Panel is the way to go. It says that it is for automatics only but there may be one for the 6-speed too if you ask.

Rich
 
Reply
Old Sep 19, 2010 | 04:59 PM
  #3  
kazlot's Avatar
kazlot
4th Gear
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 557
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco Bay Area
P/S pump fan protector-does it really work?

Originally Posted by Rich.Wolfson
This is a simple shield to prevent anything from getting in the fan. It clearly can't hurt. But if you want to prolong the fan, the Power Steering Fan Duct & Panel is the way to go. It says that it is for automatics only but there may be one for the 6-speed too if you ask.

Rich
The shield is not perfect, the fan and duct panel is much better.
I just had one installed on my car, a 6-speed, because it's cheap insurance.

Hope this helps...
 
Reply
Old Sep 19, 2010 | 06:38 PM
  #4  
Rich.Wolfson's Avatar
Rich.Wolfson
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,266
Likes: 3
From: Northern New Jersey
Originally Posted by kazlot
...
I just had one installed on my car, a 6-speed, because it's cheap insurance.
So we know it fits our 6-speed Minis as well.

Rich
 
Reply
Old Sep 19, 2010 | 07:07 PM
  #5  
Crashton's Avatar
Crashton
6th Gear
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 9,480
Likes: 3
From: Over there on MA
Yes that screen will keep trash out of the fan. I know several folks using them. I think without a screen on there it is only a matter of time until some trash finds its way into the fan.
 
Reply
Old Sep 19, 2010 | 07:54 PM
  #6  
ED955S's Avatar
ED955S
5th Gear
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (1)
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 987
Likes: 30
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
I checked the fan and electrical wiring conditions every oil change: clean and moving freely, after reading fan malfunction reports that led to fires due to overheating PS pump. I will also do a replacement every 35K.
 
Reply
Old Sep 19, 2010 | 09:10 PM
  #7  
ZippyNH's Avatar
ZippyNH
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,605
Likes: 41
From: Southern NH
I have the duct kit..manual too...
It keeps the grit out of the fan too...so it saves it from both the bigstuff and the dust crap that tears up the bearings. The duct kit, IMO, is the way to go...cheap, oem....what could be better?!
The shield with holes in it...that idea was incorporated into later mini fans...
Early fans lacked a grill, and rocks or plastic bags would jam them...the shield will accomplish the same thing as the factory grill..just stronger...but the sand/grit is still an issue. The duct does tons more to protect it.
 
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2010 | 08:05 AM
  #8  
apexer's Avatar
apexer
6th Gear
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,344
Likes: 0
From: Uniontown, PA
I have the same P/S fan shield on my 04 MCS and have had no problems. Installation is easy.
 
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2010 | 08:56 AM
  #9  
BlimeyCabrio's Avatar
BlimeyCabrio
6th Gear
iTrader: (5)
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,773
Likes: 9
From: Holly Springs, NC
The OEM duct kit and periodic cleaning made my fan last 75K miles before it seized and had to be replaced :-)

So even with the duct kit, these things probably won't last forever.
 
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2010 | 09:20 AM
  #10  
xsmini's Avatar
xsmini
6th Gear
20 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,228
Likes: 28
From: Bishop, Ca
I don"t have any protector on my fan. I do check it every now and then and make sure its spinning freely. This week my car will turn 240,000 miles and the fan has never been a problem, the ps pump went out about 5k miles ago, but had nothing to do with the fan, it was just old.

Personally I think the guards are a waste of time if you check the fan periodically, but if it brings piece of mind than go for it.

Nik
 
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2010 | 12:50 PM
  #11  
wrh3's Avatar
wrh3
3rd Gear
iTrader: (6)
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 206
Likes: 8
From: Loganville, GA
OEM Duct Kit

I have it installed on my manual trans car as well.....
 
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2010 | 07:08 PM
  #12  
CORNERS's Avatar
CORNERS
3rd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 246
Likes: 1
From: Seattle, WA
How does the duct work? It moves the fan up higher? When I look under my car now (2004 Cooper S) I see the fan is down there just a few inches off the ground.
 
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 04:17 AM
  #13  
haji3's Avatar
haji3
2nd Gear
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
i think I have a total of about 200k on all my mini's put together. In my experience, you will know when the fan need replacing, it GROWLS at you! Simple replacement, if you are not having any trouble with the ps cutting out I wouldn't sweat it.
 
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 07:45 AM
  #14  
JWA's Avatar
JWA
2nd Gear
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 133
Likes: 3
Does anyone have the part number for this handy? I'll be placing an OEM order here shortly.
 
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 08:10 AM
  #15  
JWA's Avatar
JWA
2nd Gear
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 133
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by JWA
Does anyone have the part number for this handy? I'll be placing an OEM order here shortly.
Never mind - I found them, along with a nice writeup: http://www.billswebspace.com/MiniR53PSPFanDuctDIY.htm
 
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 08:16 AM
  #16  
JWA's Avatar
JWA
2nd Gear
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 133
Likes: 3
And the listing on RealOEM for any one else looking for them: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...51&fg=75&hl=10
 
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 04:09 PM
  #17  
Rich.Wolfson's Avatar
Rich.Wolfson
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,266
Likes: 3
From: Northern New Jersey
Originally Posted by JWA
And the listing on RealOEM for any one else looking for them: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...51&fg=75&hl=10
So looking at this we can just get the Air Channel and fasteners and cut a hole in the panel and put a screen between the two and we're good to go?

Hummmmmmm.

Rich
 
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 05:13 PM
  #18  
JWA's Avatar
JWA
2nd Gear
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 133
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by Rich.Wolfson
So looking at this we can just get the Air Channel and fasteners and cut a hole in the panel and put a screen between the two and we're good to go?

Hummmmmmm.

Rich
Looks like it to me, but I figured that for $40-some bucks it wasn't worth the hassle.
 
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2010 | 10:29 AM
  #19  
works4me19's Avatar
works4me19
1st Gear
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: Langley, BC
Where do I get the clips for OEM duct kit?

Question on the OEM duct kit on a 6 speed - my MINI dealer is having trouble sourcing the clips. They say it won't use the standard clips. Any suggestions?

I get them to buy the OEM kit that says it's for an automatic, right?

I'm on fan #6 and this is a royal pain.
 
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2010 | 10:34 AM
  #20  
JWA's Avatar
JWA
2nd Gear
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 133
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by works4me19
Question on the OEM duct kit on a 6 speed - my MINI dealer is having trouble sourcing the clips. They say it won't use the standard clips. Any suggestions?

I get them to buy the OEM kit that says it's for an automatic, right?

I'm on fan #6 and this is a royal pain.
Everything will mount right up on a 6-speed - except for the two bolts that mount the duct to the fan housing. the duct comes with two quarter-turn fasteners, but the manual cars don't have the matching holes with the 1/4 turn clips. I just drilled to pilot holes and used two self-tapping screws, which was the recommendation from the lead tech at my dealer.

Sixth fan? Ouch. My fan was pretty loaded up with salt dust, which I would think helps to explain why someone in California can get 240K on theirs but someone in BC gets much less.
 
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2010 | 12:52 PM
  #21  
wrh3's Avatar
wrh3
3rd Gear
iTrader: (6)
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 206
Likes: 8
From: Loganville, GA
I think it depends on manufacture date- I have a 12/04 build '05 MCS and my fan had the holes and I was able to install the clips. I originally installed it using screws but for oil change removal the OE fasteners work better. Part numbers and pics here:

http://www.billswebspace.com/MiniR53PSPFanDuctDIY.htm
 
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2010 | 01:12 PM
  #22  
JWA's Avatar
JWA
2nd Gear
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 133
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by wrh3
I think it depends on manufacture date- I have a 12/04 build '05 MCS and my fan had the holes and I was able to install the clips. I originally installed it using screws but for oil change removal the OE fasteners work better. Part numbers and pics here:

http://www.billswebspace.com/MiniR53PSPFanDuctDIY.htm
Oh - your site is where I found the part numbers when I placed my order. Lots of informative stuff there - thanks!

My build date is 12/04 too, but I didn't have the holes. Must have just missed the changeover.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Cereall
Stock Problems/Issues
14
Sep 5, 2019 06:05 PM
danielbrookes_9
Stock Problems/Issues
20
Oct 3, 2015 12:51 PM
David.R53
Stock Problems/Issues
1
Sep 1, 2015 06:51 PM
minipopkart
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
2
Aug 13, 2015 05:22 AM
bc219
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
13
Aug 10, 2015 11:22 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:14 PM.