R50/53 No DSC and ASC swtich...
No DSC and ASC swtich...
I just pick up an 03 mini this weekend. Mostly for autocross use, unfortunately I didn't notice that the DCS/ASC switch on the switch panel was missing, it is filled in with a blank. What I want to find out is where there was a mini that simply didn't have this switch for some reason, or if the switch panel was swapped. I'm thinking it was swapped, because it looks like someone was in there, some of the underside plastic pieces aren't lined up right, and the whole switch panel itself is loose. The switch panel does how ever have a rear fog light switch, but the car does not have rear fog lights.
Long story short, I'm confused, anyone have any ideas?
Long story short, I'm confused, anyone have any ideas?
If yes, then the switch has Likely been swapped out. If no... The the option was removed, or was never present...where was the car sold new?!
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If we're talking about a Cooper, DSC was an option and there are cars that didn't have it, so no switch. Here's an example I found on Ebay:

I like the idea above of checking with a dealer to see what options were on the car at delivery.

I like the idea above of checking with a dealer to see what options were on the car at delivery.
In the earlier years (2003 would apply), both ASC and DSC were optional on the non-S, so a missing switch is not unusual. On the S, ASC was standard and DSC optional.
The rear fogs on a 2003 are the top bulb of the taillight. Is that what you checked? They were prewired and retrofit only required a toggle switch and dealer programming. Turn on your regular lights, then see if the rear fog toggle turns on the top bulbs.
The rear fogs on a 2003 are the top bulb of the taillight. Is that what you checked? They were prewired and retrofit only required a toggle switch and dealer programming. Turn on your regular lights, then see if the rear fog toggle turns on the top bulbs.
It is always possible the system malfunctioned, and the prior owner disabled it permenatly, and removed the bulbs from the cluster...not a good idea IMO, but possible. When you turn on the car to the click just before crank, does the asc+t light up?!
If yes, then the switch has Likely been swapped out. If no... The the option was removed, or was never present...where was the car sold new?!
If yes, then the switch has Likely been swapped out. If no... The the option was removed, or was never present...where was the car sold new?!
Yes, sorry, I was assuming you had made the common mistake of thinking that both ASC and DSC were on the same switch. My mistake!
I was not aware ASC was optional on the Justa. Thanks.
Can we assume that if the ASC light comes on on startup that it was indeed installed originally?
Can we assume that if the ASC light comes on on startup that it was indeed installed originally?
(Go with the VIN suggestion, to know, at least, how things started out as.)
Sounds like you need to call the dealer to find the orgional options....
On the plus side, you most likely would have turned it off for the track, so if it not installed, you might be better off.
I guess it is possible the car has asc+t and the switch panel went bad, and the owner swapped it out with the wrong one...or the owner did not want it possible to turn it off (if it was for his kids maybe ). A call to the dealer with a vin will enlighten you.
On the plus side, you most likely would have turned it off for the track, so if it not installed, you might be better off.
I guess it is possible the car has asc+t and the switch panel went bad, and the owner swapped it out with the wrong one...or the owner did not want it possible to turn it off (if it was for his kids maybe ). A call to the dealer with a vin will enlighten you.
I never did bother to call the dealer, but I got a normal panel and installed it, works like a charm. Mystery mostly solved. Except the mystery of why the other panel was in there in the first place.
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