since heather has her mini-paia baby, i don't want to bother asking her about the prima. the back of instruction on bottle didn't mention any temperature that i can use prima between cold and hot, hope you can help out to fill out the information for temperature for each bottle?

1). swirl:

2). finish:

3). amigo:

4). epic:

5). hydro:

6). banana:

i just need to know if i've chance to polish, clay, wax before it will become too cold and will be too late for prima to handle the cure issue in fall depend on temperature. i live in minnesota.

 

If it get much below 45 deg F then things tend to get a bit sluggish. That said I've done the whole thing when it was but 40 deg in my garage. It makes things a little more difficult to remove but that's all.
I can't say I know the answer for BG but you can always park in the sun.
Oh, and I've used Hydro at 20 deg and it helps keep the water from freezing before you can wipe it off.

 

ideally cool to the touch is the best especially polishes
so that it does not dry up too fast.

epic needs at least 65F imho.
hydro can be used from 32F to 120F just as long as you
wipe it off before it dries up on its own. even if it does,
you can apply more and remove the first spray /overspray.

Hydro is by far the easiestest to use.

 

Based on what exactly?

 

based on my option after trying Epic in 60F weather where it did not
dry for like 1hr.

 

maybe it was longer... and it wasn't easy to apply thin at those temps.


NAM is so damn slow to respond these days....

 

Guess I must have gotten good batches.
I have done many, many applications where it has been below 60F without a problem with it curing. I only had removal issues when it was below 45F.
Of course you have humidity and we don't.

 

really. such inconsistency is unacceptable to tell you the truth.

but hey, if it works for you, that's great.

i use PaintSealant now.

 

i sort of wish it could be recommended above 45f instead of above 65f cuz this weekend is only my last chance to do first time polishing with pc, second time claying (love the smooth coating), & second time waxing before winter come in sooner.

i did clay and wax last june then want to make sure my mini has been waxed twice each year like i has been to dentist twice each year.

 

yah, i get my last chance this coming weekend, i think, to do my
other dd.

that's a good routine to polymer your dd at least every 6months and
try to follow up with Hydro every other wash if possible.

 

I can recommend Epic at 45F and above.
The product is not inconsistent, just those applying it.

 

yah, like someone using blobs in 45F.

 

I have used Epic at around 40F, in the sun, so the paint temp was not to warm.

I have used Banana Gloss at close to freezing, worked fine

Hydro at freezing, again in the sun, worked fine.

I don't usually use these products in the sun, but when it's chilly out, it seems to not be an issue.

I have not used any polishes at these temps.

Mark

 

Humidity must play a role, no?

 

it wasn't that humid but yes, humidity does play a role.

lotise's idea about using it in the sun is a good idea. i remember
heather saying pull your car out in the sun on cold days (this was after
i posted that i had a hard time back like a yr or so ago).

unfortunately the day i was using epic, it was cloudy and air was kinda
breezy. not windy just cool air.

 

I have a Honeywell Oill Filled Stand Up Heater int the garage, all I have to do is turn it on and wait a few min. and the temps. drop enough to detail Molly and not freeze my petutie off!!

 

1). swirl: Coldest--whatever temp that Swirl doesn't freeze and stop acting as a lubricant. Hottest--whatever temp that Swirl doesn't turn to powder or stick to the paint. With that said--working in ambient 116 deg F is no fun and not recommended.

2). finish: same see #1

3). amigo: same see #1

4). epic: The colder and wetter it is, the longer it takes to dry. I have a garage/shop, so I just put on a thin coat with a PC and wipe it off the next day--maybe 8 or 10 hours later. I've also wiped Epic off after 20 minutes on a very hot and dry day. I don't think it was optimal, but it's the only choice I had in that situation. Now if time is of the essence, BG is the answer.

5). hydro: Coldest: Don't want it icey Hottest: Don't want it evaporating. If you spray it on a panel and don't have time to wipe it off before it evaporates, it's too hot.

6). banana: BG is the most flexible and forgiving waxes in the Prima line. It will work in the hottest or coldest of conditions.

The point of this post is that in detailing, a lot of times you just need to try and see what happens. Despite what anyone recommends to you, a lot of times it works, and sometimes it doesn't. You'll never know until you try.

 

>wipe it off the next day--maybe 8 or 10 hours later.


that would be nice if you had a garage for my dd's.

 

The mini-paia-baby is sleeping at the mo' so I'm here, even if briefly!

It appears this question has been answered pretty well already by the collective.

In summary though, most Prima products do well in a fairly wide range of temps and can handle pretty chilly weather, as MiniMaybee found.

For Epic specifically, the colder it is, indeed, the longer it takes for it to dry.

Yes, humidity definity plays a part in this question. This is why we can't give exact use temperature ranges for each product... humidity and temperature together affect the way the product behaves (i.e., how long it takes to dry, how long it's workable, etc).

Banana Gloss is a temperature exception... we have yet to use it in a temperature that is too hot or too cold. It is the most temperature friendly of them all by far.

Hope that helps!

-Heather