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Old May 27, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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What temp?

What temperature should my coolant and oil temp be running at?
 
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Old May 27, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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Have you got gauges ?

Oil temps should be around 100C when hot. Coolant around the same.
 
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Old May 27, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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Yeah I have gauges. My temps are around the same. Would it be better for the engine to drop the temp by installing a new thermostat. 100C is pretty darn hot.
 
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Old May 28, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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Actually that is the optimum temp for both oil and coolant.
 
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Old May 29, 2008 | 04:08 AM
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Serious? When the coolant temp is hot enough to boil water I thought it would be too hot.
 
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Old May 29, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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That's why you add coolant to the water. It raises the boiling and lowers the freezing point.
The stock thermostat is either 190 or 200 F.
 
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Old May 29, 2008 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottinBend
That's why you add coolant to the water. It raises the boiling and lowers the freezing point.
The stock thermostat is either 190 or 200 F.
Plus you gain 3 degrees of boiling points for every pound that the rad cap is rated at. IE-lets assume your coolant in a 50/50 mixture will boil at....240. A 15lb radiator cap will add another 45 degrees before that coolant will boil bringing it to 285. Just an example but it works.
 
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Old May 29, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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Yeah I know that coolant raises the BP, but wouldnt a lower temp be more efficient at removing the heat?

Im not saying that i want to run icy water through the engine, but wouldn't the thermostats rated at 87 degrees would be more effective?
 

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Old May 29, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Actually not......the manufacturer will specify the temp rating of the thermostat to keep the engine at the design temp. This is usually a compromise between fuel efficiency and performance, but going to low will actually hurt the engine by causing the ecu to think the engine is not warmed and running way to rich.
 
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Old May 29, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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^^^Uh-huh. Stand next to a 5.0 Mustang with a 160 t-stat and see how much gas vapor is in the air. Also, the hotter a motor runs, the more power it will make. NASCAR will run from 230-240. More heat in the motor means better (read-finer) fuel atomization in the chamber and more power.
 
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Old May 29, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hemiheaded18
^^^Uh-huh.

Not sure what you mean by this.......
 
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Old May 29, 2008 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottinBend
Not sure what you mean by this.......
Meant I agree with what you stated before my last post.
 
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Old May 29, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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Gotcha........guess I am to old to get some of this new fangled internet stuff


 
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Old May 29, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottinBend
Gotcha........guess I am to old to get some of this new fangled internet stuff


Welkume to teh interwebz. The place where things are borked, not broken and your best friend is actually your BFF.
 
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Old May 29, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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Roflmao 2 much uber 1337 speak 4 me. Ill get back 2 my mmorpg n pawn some noobs.
 
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Old May 29, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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The real trick to improve cooling is the head gasket. And it is the combustion chamber temperature not the coolant that you want raised for more power. The reference to the Mustang guys that I presume running a cooler 160 thermostat I would think neglected to change the location of the coolant temperature sensor which is what you want to do to compensate for lower coolant temperature. If properly and strategically placed can give the recommended information to the ECU.
M7 Tuning has a 180 thermostat but does not come with a new housing seal. It works very well at lowering the coolant temperatures. There has been some claims that it does not allow the engine to get warm enough for maximum WHP though? Adding a good oil cooler will help maintain an even oil temperature.
 
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