Just finished reading the new Car & Drivers Super Tuner Shoot Out for 4 bangers.....had the Mini Mania MCS entered with all the mods totaling $44,260, laugh !

245 hp according to Mini Mania....the car finished 3rd in the front wheel overall catagory which was pretty good, but it finished 1st in the Road Course for front wheelers and beat almost all the rear wheelers on the road course including the Honda S2000 (350hp-$68K) and just slightly behind the WRX (450hp-$86K) & Evo (341hp-$39K)


what I was suprised with was how poor the 1/4 mile time was for the MCS especially with all the mods to get to 245 hp....15.7 sec and 97 mph.....for over 20K in mods, seems rather modest compared to the stock MCS.....

anyway the road course results shows it is not all about horsepower....interesting read...the last part was especially funny when they took out the $56K Z06 Corvette for the test and it blew everyone away, laugh !

 

But Overall... Placed 9th.... and the s2000 placed 1st

 

But Overall... Placed 9th.... and the s2000 placed 1st

The problem is while beating the S2000 on the road course, it gets killed in the 1/4 mile and straight away speeds even with all the mods

But one myth it helped dispell is front wheelers can't compete with rear wheelers on the track !

cheers

 

What issue is this. I havent seen it anywhere yet.

 

I think that Car and drive Messed up. I know that my car which was stock, ran a 15.57 in the 1/4, and with pulley and exchaust, cars should be in the low 15's. With that much, they should be in the 14 second area

 

Some clarifying points:

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yEP you are right, the driver messed up or there is a miss print somewere, because there is a 13's mini modded out with that much Hp, that I have seen.

 

They had the base price of the MINI listed at $38,000.....WTF?

 

>>They had the base price of the MINI listed at $38,000.....WTF?

"2002 Mini Madness Mini Cooper S
Vehicle type: front-engine, front-wheel-drive, 2+2-passenger, 3-door coupe
Price as tested: $44,260 (base price*: $38,550)

*Base price includes all performance-enhancing options."

Did you notice the car DID NOT have a strutbrace or a good intercooler

check this link
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....page_number=12


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>>Did you notice the car DID NOT have a strutbrace or a good intercooler.

Nor did it need either.

And why am I posting information if no one is reading my posts. The times were due to strong wind gusts. Arg.

R

 

I saw the mag too. Head wind or not, it still ran a 97 mph trap speed (better than stock and in stang territory). IMO, it lost all of its torque down low or the tester lit 'em up at the start-- I mean REALLY lit 'em up.

I was told something like 50 mph headwind. I dunno how much that actually affects the results. Know it does, just not by how much. Plus, if there was a wind of that force whipping the track, not only would it have been unsafe, but all the results are BS and shouldn't have been published.

Which leads to my opinion on C&D-- Their history seems quite biased to the american v8. Imports (except BMW/Porche/Ferrari/Lambo) need not apply. How considerate they are to show up with a corvette.....

C&D = {mmmoan..mmmm-hummm, Gee mister mmmm... Lingenfelter, sir}

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That's my point



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