Yay new springs
Yay new springs
Finally got ride of that 4x4 look the short tires gave my car (many thanks to Darkness for the help installing)
Before:

After:

Pleased with the result:

Highest G-force before was 1.03G
These are H-Sport Springs on 205/45R16 tires.
Before:

After:

Pleased with the result:

Highest G-force before was 1.03G
These are H-Sport Springs on 205/45R16 tires.
both numbers were using goodyear eagle f1 gs-d3 tires (205/45R16)
pre springs:
Dry: 1.03G autoX in cadillac assembly plant parking lot (outside detroit) asphalt i think... it was a while ago but i will be going there again later this year
post springs (lateral):
Dry: 1.31G on the Dragon LOL (running in reverse tabcat -> deals gap at the gravity cavity or a turn like that) asphalt? only happened once though, most of the time max was 1.15-1.25
Wet: 1.03G at the ETR AutoX at the Dragon (raining w/standing water) weird combination surface (asphalt + concrete?) with some dirt as well lol, don't know quite where i got the number but i got it both left and right and on different runs (i don't check the meter till after the run for obvious reasons
)
maybe one of the pros that was there can help with what kind of surface it was
braking was ~0.87G
pre springs:
Dry: 1.03G autoX in cadillac assembly plant parking lot (outside detroit) asphalt i think... it was a while ago but i will be going there again later this year
post springs (lateral):
Dry: 1.31G on the Dragon LOL (running in reverse tabcat -> deals gap at the gravity cavity or a turn like that) asphalt? only happened once though, most of the time max was 1.15-1.25
Wet: 1.03G at the ETR AutoX at the Dragon (raining w/standing water) weird combination surface (asphalt + concrete?) with some dirt as well lol, don't know quite where i got the number but i got it both left and right and on different runs (i don't check the meter till after the run for obvious reasons
) maybe one of the pros that was there can help with what kind of surface it was
braking was ~0.87G
Last edited by UKCoopeR; May 7, 2008 at 03:20 PM.
it is a G-Tech SS
http://www.gtechpro.com/
yes those are peak loads, i think you can get sustained if you do a "circle test" on a skidpad, but i haven't tried that myself, will when i get a chance tho
http://www.gtechpro.com/
yes those are peak loads, i think you can get sustained if you do a "circle test" on a skidpad, but i haven't tried that myself, will when i get a chance tho
I think I counted about 30 corners in a row where it was +1G left, +1G right,+1G left, +1G right,+1G left, +1G right.. etc. I need one of those
Glad the springs worked out so well! I'm praying that hotchkis will replace my broken set and I can put them on stephanies car. Now all you need to go is upgrade to a stoptech stage 2 becuase those OEMs are shot! and a short throw... and a comp. rear sway...
I've already set our goal for next year as +1.5G.
Glad the springs worked out so well! I'm praying that hotchkis will replace my broken set and I can put them on stephanies car. Now all you need to go is upgrade to a stoptech stage 2 becuase those OEMs are shot! and a short throw... and a comp. rear sway...
I've already set our goal for next year as +1.5G.
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hahaha yeah, i will see what i can do 
and yes the g-meter is a blast, and can also help your lap times, because you can tell where you can afford to take a turn a bit faster next time

and yes the g-meter is a blast, and can also help your lap times, because you can tell where you can afford to take a turn a bit faster next time
i will try and get a real measure of the current wheelgap tomorrow
as Darkness said, my car is a little funny cuz of the short sidewall of my 205/45R16 tires
but here a little info to hold you over
before the springs i had about a 4 finger ~ 3" wheel gap
now i have a 2 finger ~ 1.5" wheel gap
+/- 0.25" for now
i will update tomorrow
as Darkness said, my car is a little funny cuz of the short sidewall of my 205/45R16 tires
but here a little info to hold you over
before the springs i had about a 4 finger ~ 3" wheel gap
now i have a 2 finger ~ 1.5" wheel gap
+/- 0.25" for now
i will update tomorrow
with my stock shocks i didn't really notice a big change in daily ride comfort point of view (ask Darkness about the ride with koni yellows), though i do have to watch out for scraping because the springs and my short tires put my front airdam ~1.75" lower than stock LOL
Last edited by UKCoopeR; May 11, 2008 at 07:41 PM.
For reference, I've had a few different types of suspension on my mini and my girlfriend drives a stock mini, which I switch between regularly, so I know the difference.
The ride with Hsport springs and stock struts I feel is noticably better than stock. It's not harsh by any means, but it feels firmer and more responsive, though it can get a little bouncy. I rode in UKcoopers before and after we did the springs and really noticed the change.
Now... I fitted mine with Hsport springs and Konis and the ride was TERRIBLE! I thought the shock would come through the towers some times. I know it performed, but god it made daily driving (on indiana roads) miserable. If you decide to upgrade the springs, I've got to tell you to stay away from the konis if you daily drive. Just keep the stock struts and get some camber plates and control rods.
I just replaced that mess with BC coilovers and it rides much better. I still feel the bumps, but it doesn't throw me though the sunroof everytime I hit one.
The ride with Hsport springs and stock struts I feel is noticably better than stock. It's not harsh by any means, but it feels firmer and more responsive, though it can get a little bouncy. I rode in UKcoopers before and after we did the springs and really noticed the change.
Now... I fitted mine with Hsport springs and Konis and the ride was TERRIBLE! I thought the shock would come through the towers some times. I know it performed, but god it made daily driving (on indiana roads) miserable. If you decide to upgrade the springs, I've got to tell you to stay away from the konis if you daily drive. Just keep the stock struts and get some camber plates and control rods.
I just replaced that mess with BC coilovers and it rides much better. I still feel the bumps, but it doesn't throw me though the sunroof everytime I hit one.
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