17x8 wheels fit?
What is the offset? That's gonna determine what size tires you look for.
Do you plan on lowering the car? Plan on running negative camber?
Though, I have to say...if you're looking for track wheels....you may want to stick with 17x7 or 17x7.5...you won't be able to run the maximum tire size that the 17x8 offers. If you're not using the main benefit of the wider wheel, you might as well go with a skinnier wheel.
Do you plan on lowering the car? Plan on running negative camber?
Though, I have to say...if you're looking for track wheels....you may want to stick with 17x7 or 17x7.5...you won't be able to run the maximum tire size that the 17x8 offers. If you're not using the main benefit of the wider wheel, you might as well go with a skinnier wheel.
Last edited by Rally@StanceDesign; Apr 27, 2008 at 04:27 PM.
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Yes, the base Cooper will fit many sized wheels from 15x8 on up past 19".
17x7 is stock for the MCS but 17x8 will fit any MINI if offset is correct and tire size is not too tall.
What suspension do you have? Any plans to lower it?
What offset is the 17x8 wheel? Make sure it is 4x100 bolt pattern.
What year do you have and do you have any plans to upgrade brakes to something with a larger caliper?
For stock MC with stock suspension and stock tire size then
17x8 rim with +37 to +42mm offset is OK. Using tires that are taller than stock will reduce clearance while tires that are smaller will increase wheel gap. 205/45-17 will fit 17x8 rim fine.
Alternatively you can also use 215/45-17 with 17x8 rim, the tire is a little taller than stock but will work with stock suspension.
If you want a wider tire you can also run 235/40-17 with 17x8 rim but you get a little less clearance and a little more cost, more weight, and smaller tire selection. 40 Series sidewalls are stiffer so better handling and turn in response with a little less comfort.
In 235/40-17 with highest performance in mind-
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric $182 each 240 treadwear 23 lbs
Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R $180 each 140 treadwear 25 lbs
or for more value
Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec $139 each 200 treadwear 24 lbs $50 rebate on set of four tires
For wide tires and wider than stock wheel you might try a 3 to 5 mm spacer in the rear or wheel with less offset about +37 or +38mm.
Yes, the base Cooper will fit many sized wheels from 15x8 on up past 19".
17x7 is stock for the MCS but 17x8 will fit any MINI if offset is correct and tire size is not too tall.
What suspension do you have? Any plans to lower it?
What offset is the 17x8 wheel? Make sure it is 4x100 bolt pattern.
What year do you have and do you have any plans to upgrade brakes to something with a larger caliper?
For stock MC with stock suspension and stock tire size then
17x8 rim with +37 to +42mm offset is OK. Using tires that are taller than stock will reduce clearance while tires that are smaller will increase wheel gap. 205/45-17 will fit 17x8 rim fine.
Alternatively you can also use 215/45-17 with 17x8 rim, the tire is a little taller than stock but will work with stock suspension.
If you want a wider tire you can also run 235/40-17 with 17x8 rim but you get a little less clearance and a little more cost, more weight, and smaller tire selection. 40 Series sidewalls are stiffer so better handling and turn in response with a little less comfort.
In 235/40-17 with highest performance in mind-
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric $182 each 240 treadwear 23 lbs
Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R $180 each 140 treadwear 25 lbs
or for more value
Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec $139 each 200 treadwear 24 lbs $50 rebate on set of four tires
For wide tires and wider than stock wheel you might try a 3 to 5 mm spacer in the rear or wheel with less offset about +37 or +38mm.
i have a stock supention with the sports package i plan on doing sway bars but i probally won't go father then that.
like i said before im flexible on the offset
its a 04 and i currently don't have any big brake plans i just upgraded to stock sized cross drilled and sloted rotors with EBC yellow stuff pads
my main Goal is to keep the weight down as much as possible and put as much tread to the ground as possible.
so spacers and 37-42?
also a completely different question whats the largest tire you can fit on the stock 16x6.5 rims with no scrubbing
like i said before im flexible on the offset
its a 04 and i currently don't have any big brake plans i just upgraded to stock sized cross drilled and sloted rotors with EBC yellow stuff pads
my main Goal is to keep the weight down as much as possible and put as much tread to the ground as possible.
so spacers and 37-42?
also a completely different question whats the largest tire you can fit on the stock 16x6.5 rims with no scrubbing
As I said earlier....you really can't use the full potential of a 17x8 because the tire will rub. Most people run 8's for style. You stated you're concerned about weight as well....you might be better off getting 17x7.5's or even 17x7's. You can still fit 225's without having the added weight of a wider wheel.
This thread moved to Tires, Wheels and brakes forum.
Yes, the base Cooper will fit many sized wheels from 15x8 on up past 19".
17x7 is stock for the MCS but 17x8 will fit any MINI if offset is correct and tire size is not too tall.
What suspension do you have? Any plans to lower it?
What offset is the 17x8 wheel? Make sure it is 4x100 bolt pattern.
What year do you have and do you have any plans to upgrade brakes to something with a larger caliper?
For stock MC with stock suspension and stock tire size then
17x8 rim with +37 to +42mm offset is OK. Using tires that are taller than stock will reduce clearance while tires that are smaller will increase wheel gap. 205/45-17 will fit 17x8 rim fine.
Alternatively you can also use 215/45-17 with 17x8 rim, the tire is a little taller than stock but will work with stock suspension.
If you want a wider tire you can also run 235/40-17 with 17x8 rim but you get a little less clearance and a little more cost, more weight, and smaller tire selection. 40 Series sidewalls are stiffer so better handling and turn in response with a little less comfort.
In 235/40-17 with highest performance in mind-
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric $182 each 240 treadwear 23 lbs
Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R $180 each 140 treadwear 25 lbs
or for more value
Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec $139 each 200 treadwear 24 lbs $50 rebate on set of four tires
For wide tires and wider than stock wheel you might try a 3 to 5 mm spacer in the rear or wheel with less offset about +37 or +38mm.
Yes, the base Cooper will fit many sized wheels from 15x8 on up past 19".
17x7 is stock for the MCS but 17x8 will fit any MINI if offset is correct and tire size is not too tall.
What suspension do you have? Any plans to lower it?
What offset is the 17x8 wheel? Make sure it is 4x100 bolt pattern.
What year do you have and do you have any plans to upgrade brakes to something with a larger caliper?
For stock MC with stock suspension and stock tire size then
17x8 rim with +37 to +42mm offset is OK. Using tires that are taller than stock will reduce clearance while tires that are smaller will increase wheel gap. 205/45-17 will fit 17x8 rim fine.
Alternatively you can also use 215/45-17 with 17x8 rim, the tire is a little taller than stock but will work with stock suspension.
If you want a wider tire you can also run 235/40-17 with 17x8 rim but you get a little less clearance and a little more cost, more weight, and smaller tire selection. 40 Series sidewalls are stiffer so better handling and turn in response with a little less comfort.
In 235/40-17 with highest performance in mind-
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric $182 each 240 treadwear 23 lbs
Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R $180 each 140 treadwear 25 lbs
or for more value
Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec $139 each 200 treadwear 24 lbs $50 rebate on set of four tires
For wide tires and wider than stock wheel you might try a 3 to 5 mm spacer in the rear or wheel with less offset about +37 or +38mm.
i have a stock supention with the sports package i plan on doing sway bars but i probally won't go father then that.
like i said before im flexible on the offset
its a 04 and i currently don't have any big brake plans i just upgraded to stock sized cross drilled and sloted rotors with EBC yellow stuff pads
my main Goal is to keep the weight down as much as possible and put as much tread to the ground as possible.
so spacers and 37-42?
also a completely different question whats the largest tire you can fit on the stock 16x6.5 rims with no scrubbing
like i said before im flexible on the offset
its a 04 and i currently don't have any big brake plans i just upgraded to stock sized cross drilled and sloted rotors with EBC yellow stuff pads
my main Goal is to keep the weight down as much as possible and put as much tread to the ground as possible.
so spacers and 37-42?
also a completely different question whats the largest tire you can fit on the stock 16x6.5 rims with no scrubbing
While you can go extra wide like-
225/50-16 (a bit tall at 24.9" tire diameter)
For best fit 205/50-16 or 205/55-16 is usual.
Tire selection would be different using a 16x7" or wider rim.
Using your MC with stock suspension-
17x8 rim
205/45-17 or 215/45-17 tire
+40 offset
With wider sized tire then less offset.
And by that you mean higher offset or lower? I wouldn't go much lower than 40 if you're running 215's.
205/45-17 will have a pretty big stretch on a 17x8....just a heads up to the OP.
205/45-17 will have a pretty big stretch on a 17x8....just a heads up to the OP.
Last edited by Rally@StanceDesign; Apr 27, 2008 at 05:18 PM.
205's are what konky is running on his 17x8's and I've got 205's stretched on my 15x8's. 205 is a definite stretch on 17x8.
205 on a 17x8 (konky's). Beautiful amount of stretch
205 on a 17x8 (konky's). Beautiful amount of stretch
17x8
wassup laggy,i know you have plenty to think about after everyone chiming in,i put 17x8 et38 team dynamics on my jcw with hankook rs-2s,what a great combo,i get minor rubbing in the back but that can easily be fixed with a little trimming which i havnt got round to doing yet,my tire guy took the time to mount several tires on the rims to see which ones would work,when he tried the hankook in 225 45r/17 i just loved the look and now that i have broken them in thay are just awesome,had falken azenis 615 before,way better
btw if anyone in the west san fernando valley area in la is looking for a good tire guy,tires buy mark

If I ran wider tires that didn't stretch, my poor arches would be rubbed away
Oh, I know the reasons that people give for running stretched tires, but if your wheels are so wide that you need to run stretched tires to get adequate clearance between the tire sidewall and the wheel arches, then why not - oh I don't know - use narrower wheels??
You could also have a body shop roll your wheel arches to give you more clearance. It just seems to me that stretching narrow tires onto a wide rim is kind of a "low-rent" solution, but strangely enough, it seems to be the "big thing" with people going for a high-style "Euro/VIP" look.
Whenever I see a car with super-stretched tires, the message the owner is sending (to me) is either:
1) "I got a great deal on these bitchin' wide wheels (or I'm trying my best to re-use some wheels I already had lying around), but now I have to stretch a way-too-narrow tire onto it to keep from rubbing things", or
2) "I spent all my money on these rims and can't afford the proper-sized tires for them."
Of course, I turn 38 next month, so maybe I just need to start shopping for high-waisted pants, black socks and sandals.
You could also have a body shop roll your wheel arches to give you more clearance. It just seems to me that stretching narrow tires onto a wide rim is kind of a "low-rent" solution, but strangely enough, it seems to be the "big thing" with people going for a high-style "Euro/VIP" look.
Whenever I see a car with super-stretched tires, the message the owner is sending (to me) is either:
1) "I got a great deal on these bitchin' wide wheels (or I'm trying my best to re-use some wheels I already had lying around), but now I have to stretch a way-too-narrow tire onto it to keep from rubbing things", or
2) "I spent all my money on these rims and can't afford the proper-sized tires for them."
Of course, I turn 38 next month, so maybe I just need to start shopping for high-waisted pants, black socks and sandals.
Last edited by ScottRiqui; Apr 27, 2008 at 07:44 PM.
You could also have a body shop roll your wheel arches to give you more clearance. It just seems to me that stretching narrow tires onto a wide rim is kind of a "low-rent" solution, but strangely enough, it seems to be the "big thing" with people going for a high-style "Euro/VIP" look.
And how wide wheels is "low-rent" is beyond me. Most wheels that have stretched tires are custom high-end wheels. My centercaps alone each cost more than most Rota wheels...and of course, my 205/50's cost just as much as the 205/50's you see on any 15x7

Low rent
Whenever I see a car with super-stretched tires, the message the owner is sending (to me) is either:
1) "I got a great deal on these bitchin' wide wheels (or I'm trying my best to re-use some wheels I already had lying around), but now I have to stretch a way-too-narrow tire onto it to keep from rubbing things", or
2) "I spent all my money on these rims and can't afford the proper-sized tires for them."
1) "I got a great deal on these bitchin' wide wheels (or I'm trying my best to re-use some wheels I already had lying around), but now I have to stretch a way-too-narrow tire onto it to keep from rubbing things", or
2) "I spent all my money on these rims and can't afford the proper-sized tires for them."
The truth of the matter is that 99% of the time, someone you see running around with stretched tires and poking wheels knows more about tire and wheel fitments than the average person running mediocre wheel widths and the regular tire just because the rest of the forum assured them it would fit. People with that kind of dedication to stance and running wide wheels spend a ridiculous amount of time and energy measuring, testing, and planning on their custom wheels to make them fit just right so that they can be right at the fenders without rubbing. It's a big obsession for most of those people as they search for their perfect stance. And 99% of the time....the stretched tires that don't rub and the ability to run wide poking wheels is exactly what they were aiming for.....so instead of assuming that they don't know how to fit "proper tires", realize that they know EXACTLY how to make the wheel fit in the manner that they had planned and they know exactly what the proper sized tire is.
And #2 makes very little sense to begin with....the difference between a 205 and a 215 or 225 of the same tire is probably a $20 difference. It's not like they are choosing between cheap 15" tires or expensive 18" tires that greatly vary in prices.

And no age excuses....I know 40+ year olds who know how to fit extreme wheels with stretched tires

(just playing)
Last edited by Rally@StanceDesign; Apr 27, 2008 at 08:16 PM.
First, the extreme cases I'm talking about aren't people that are stretching a 205 onto a rim better-suited for a 215 or a 225. I'm talking about people stretching tires onto rims that are 2", 2.5" or even 3" wider than the "normal" size rim for that tire.
If that's the look they're going for, then by all means, it's their car and their choice. I just think it's a silly look when you can see both the front AND back side of the rim lip.
As for my "low-rent" comment, I just meant that I feel there are better/cleaner ways of fixing interference problems besides stretching a narrow tire over a wide rim. I didn't mean that wide wheels are cheap. But again, if that's the look they're going for, then the stretched tires become an end in and of themselves, rather than just a means to an end of fixing interference problems.
And I guess if you just absolutely have to have the face of the rim flush with the wheel-arch opening, and you're not willing to roll the arches, then stretching the tire is probably the best solution.
If that's the look they're going for, then by all means, it's their car and their choice. I just think it's a silly look when you can see both the front AND back side of the rim lip.
As for my "low-rent" comment, I just meant that I feel there are better/cleaner ways of fixing interference problems besides stretching a narrow tire over a wide rim. I didn't mean that wide wheels are cheap. But again, if that's the look they're going for, then the stretched tires become an end in and of themselves, rather than just a means to an end of fixing interference problems.
And I guess if you just absolutely have to have the face of the rim flush with the wheel-arch opening, and you're not willing to roll the arches, then stretching the tire is probably the best solution.






