when i start my clubman s up in the morning , it ticks like a time bomb. is this normal? i had a 2006 mcs before and i dont remember it ticking so loud. it runs great but the loud ticking is odd, or is it?

 

oh noes ... I hope this is not the same issue as on the R56 MCS

more reading about it here:
http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/02/...issue-exposed/

 

Yep. Same problem because the engines are the same.

 

yes, but one would hope this was already sorted out in an engine that at this point is almost 2 years on the market.

 

Thanks for that link - this is probably one of two times I'm thankful that I couldn't afford an S nor have the ability to drive a standard shift anymore, not that these comments of mine are very helpful. I hate reading this stuff, it makes me very angry and disappointed.

Since I tend not to read much about any MINI S versions, I hadn't been aware of this - I'm glad to have been made aware, and will hope for good news soon.

 

So far so good here, but unfortunately for those of us that opted for the S model, the odds of developing this problem are greater than we would like to admit. Still love the Clubman S and do not regret the choice one bit. To the OP: The engine in your 2006 MCS is totally different from the one in your Clubman S. Not a good point of reference. But I do agree that the "lowly" supercharged TRITEC engine is virtually bulletproof.

 

Ever since this problem was published in MF, MINIUSA has gone totally silent about it. The general concensus is that the engine is experiencing oil starvation..

 

The clicking and the "cold start noise" are two different things. The engine does click when it's on because of its intended design. There is no problem with it clicking. The cold start noise is not that clicking. It is an inconsistent, metal-grinding sound that lasts momentarily.

 

Yes. The clicking noise is because of the direct fuel injection design in the Prince engine.

 

do you mean 'clicking' (because of the direct injection) or 'rattling'

I REALLY hope the first

 

Clicking.

 

I SO hope they sorted it out

 

oh dear..

approaching 7000 km without any probs..

 

Yep. However, the turbocharged engine is well worth it and don't regret going that route. The Cooper Clubman is a very nice car, but the effortless punch of the turbocharger and slight drop in fuel economy made it a no brainer to us.

 

its a ticking- no grinding, i just thought it was odd to sound like a model t.

 

I was talking about the "cold start noise" not the clicking due to the direct fuel injection.

The turbo Prince engine[current engine model developed by BMW and the French PSA Group(Peugeot Citroen)] began production in 2005. Its first application was in the Peugeot 207 GTi & 207 RC in 2006 and these cars have also reported the same problem.

Basically, neither BMW nor PSA have cared to resolve this problem.

I just bought a MCS manual, taking delivery this week or beginning of next week, and I knew about this issue before I ordered my Mini. I haven't heard of any problem regarding this issue and am hoping to not find any.

Dan

 

I have a 2008 MCS, engine by PSA/Peugeot, tranny by Getrag of Germany. My MINI is exactly three months old delivered, driven only by me. 2501 miles as of this post.

I have seen posts regarding the new generation MINI engines sounding like a diesel on startup. I first experienced this today. It sounded like Lurch70's posted videos but disappeared after warming up, pulling out of the driveway and driving to the end of the street.

I would be alarmed but I have driven other (non-turbo) cars that exhibit this same symptom on startup.

I will keep an eye on the conditions preceding this noisy startup.