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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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JCW or Miltek Exhaust on MCS Convertible???

I'm just getting ready to start w/ the mods on my 2005 MCS Conv. I was planing on going w/ a Miltek exhaust, but I've found a used JCW exhaust. Any thoughts? Is it worth the extra $600 bucks to upgrade to the Miltek??

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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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Never had a JCW, but I'm very happy with the Milltek
 
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Milltek offers a slighty better sound and slighty more performance. I bought a jcw off of a friend who had switched to Milltek (he had it on his 03 and wanted the same exhuast on his 06) Is a few hp worth $600 to you?

I have had the JCW and it is nice and quiet, nut I prefer my Alta exhuast as it has a meaner sound.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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It would be useful to know how far you think you are going to mod. With a pulley and CAI I wouldn't think the difference would be that great, but the difference increases after you get a head. By the way, with the Miltek think about getting the TSW cross brace instead of the M7 understrut system. The sound is a personal choice and even more important with the top down.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bigtermites
I'm just getting ready to start w/ the mods on my 2005 MCS Conv. I was planing on going w/ a Miltek exhaust, but I've found a used JCW exhaust. Any thoughts? Is it worth the extra $600 bucks to upgrade to the Miltek??

Thanks all.
I installed Alta Pipes on my 07....love um
 
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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I have a 06 GP which came with the JCW exhaust. I thought it was too quite. I removed the resonator and it was too snip/crackle/pop. I tried a Borla Sport and it was too loud inside the GP (not much rear sound insulation). I installed the Miltek cat-back and it is about right. Louder than the JCW but not too loud to create a drone inside the car while cruising.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Is it worth the extra $600 bucks to upgrade to the Miltek??
I would like to know where you can get a Milltek exhaust for $600? It seems they are $900-1000 most places now with the declining value of the dollar.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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If you do go with the miltek can you let me know who is selling the used jcw ?? Thanks.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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I have the JCW exhaust on my 05 MCSC. I love it. It is not overbearing when just cruising along but lets everyone know you are there when you put your foot into it. I don't think you will go wrong with getting the JCW exhaust. Plus you can save a few bucks for some other mods!
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Diosdado
It would be useful to know how far you think you are going to mod. With a pulley and CAI I wouldn't think the difference would be that great, but the difference increases after you get a head. By the way, with the Miltek think about getting the TSW cross brace instead of the M7 understrut system. The sound is a personal choice and even more important with the top down.
I'm with Dios on this one. The M7 USS or the TSW CB is a requirement for the MCSC, IMO. A lot of people have reported issues with the Milltek and USS combo. As I have but did some changes to eliminate this. I think the TSW won't have this issue if you go with the Milltek.

If I had to do it all over again, I would go with the One Ball and replace the stock resonator with something less restrictive as some others have done and cheaper.

Sorry, to digress, but you're asking about the Milltek and JCW not what I would do differently.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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The JCW is quieter than the Milltek for sure, and being you are in a convertible you are going to be more aware of the sound. Save the $600 extra and go with the JCW, should be better for resale too. When I drive without my cargo cover and seats down I find the Milltek a little too loud, but hen again I'm an old fart @ 45.

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I would like to know where you can get a Milltek exhaust for $600? It seems they are $900-1000 most places now with the declining value of the dollar.
What he's saying is it would cost him an EXTRA $600 for the Milltek over the price he can buy the (used?) JCW for. ie: used JCW= $300-$400 + $600 for the Milltek new = $900-$1,000
 

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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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milltek.
...next week I'm adding obx header to my milltek catback.
...lets rumble!
 
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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THANKS FOR THE INPUT

I decided to pass on the JCW. I wanted something w/ a little more sound & the JCW had 20K miles on it. My local shop in Alexandria, Va wants me to gor w/ the Borla Street. Hope to find a Miltek local to hear. I want something w/ a nice sound, but not like a Honda Civic.

Thanks agan.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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All this talk of which exhaust sounds better and which one produces more horse power got me thinking ...

Wouldn't it be great if someone with a good quality sound recorder came out to the Dragon (MOTD) this year and recorded the sound of all the different exhaust systems?
Then you could put all the sound files on this site and choose which pipes you want based on which one sounds best to you.

Just an idea and yes I know this idea should be on the MOTD thread if I really want someone to come through with it.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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I have the Milltek and am pleased with ,both sound and appearance.Q
 
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by cabriopilot
All this talk of which exhaust sounds better and which one produces more horse power got me thinking ...

Wouldn't it be great if someone with a good quality sound recorder came out to the Dragon (MOTD) this year and recorded the sound of all the different exhaust systems?
Then you could put all the sound files on this site and choose which pipes you want based on which one sounds best to you.

Just an idea and yes I know this idea should be on the MOTD thread if I really want someone to come through with it.
Try here: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=23789
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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HI

I have JCW exhaust, resonator removed and Milltek header...love the sound and NO drone
 
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 05:15 AM
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DOES THE MILTEK HEADER CHANGE THE SOUND?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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I haven't seen any mods add to the resale value of any MINIS. Your MINI will be worth more in the long run unmodded as are most vehicles. However, it sure is a lot of fun modding our MINIS just the way WE want them.

The only regret I have with any of my mods is the combination of the Milltek exhaust and the M7 UCC. Rattle, Rattle, Rattle. The M7 was never designed to work with the Cabrio Milltek exhaust.

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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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i just bought a jcw exhaust and i don t know if it fits my 05 Mcs convertible? can someone help me?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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i just bought a jcw exhaust and i don t know if it fits my 05 Mcs convertible? can someone help me?
No it doesn't fit.. pack it up and send to me for disposal..

All kidding aside for just a moment.. Does the exhaust pipe come to a center point or does it go off to the right?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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it comes to center ...i hope i bought the good one...
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cabriopilot
No it doesn't fit.. pack it up and send to me for disposal..

All kidding aside for just a moment.. Does the exhaust pipe come to a center point or does it go off to the right?


it comes to a center point sO?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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For the convertible the exhaust should have a compressed/crimped section of pipe before the "Y" split going to the rear mufflers. The JCW exhaust that came on my 2006 GP had the convertible crimp. However, depending on where you obtained the exhaust it might not have the crimped section.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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ok this is the photos of my exhaus do you think it s good for 05 mcs convertible
 
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