Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R53) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 07:23 AM
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That Subject should get your attention... :smile:

What to do!?

Would you do the H-Sport springs and Control arms + Brakes

OR

The EVOTech upgrade?

I can do one or the other right now. I'm leaning toward the springs becasue the cost of the EVOTech upgrade will likely go down in the next few months (while I save my pennies)

Thoughts?

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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 08:05 AM
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I have the springs and control arms, and I love it, don't have big brakes yet. But My opinion is to do the first mods, wait a while for the ECU stuff.


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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 08:10 AM
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I agree. The springs for now. The ECU mod will probably become more reasonable in time.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 08:13 AM
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Springs and control arms first!
 
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 08:17 AM
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The hardware seems like a better bet. Software's always changing and being improved, while it seems like a good set of springs don't get "improved" upon too often. That being said, what do control arms do again?
 
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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REALLY.

Wow. They're THAT good, eh?

Just as a side note, upgrades are free forever on the EVOTech flash...

-Jim
 
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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What brake upgrades are you looking to do? I would tend to agree on waiting for further ECU development...I suspect alot of stuff is going to pop up for the MCS before long in that arena.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 08:24 AM
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>>What brake upgrades are you looking to do? I would tend to agree on waiting for further ECU development...I suspect alot of stuff is going to pop up for the MCS before long in that arena.


I'm mainly just looking to improve braking a bit and get rid of that CURSED BLACK DUST! :evil:

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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 08:29 AM
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>>what do control arms do again?

The H-Sport springs will increase negative camber (making the wheels/tires squat with the tops in and the bottom/contact patch splayed outward) This causes increased wear on the inner tread and decreased contact with the road. The control arms will bring camber back in an adjustable manner to a more stock setting. They are the best of both worlds, as you can adjust for maximum performance for the track, or maximum longevity for the street.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 08:47 AM
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So just the H-sport springs alone with increase negative camber and with then you need the control arms to bring it back into a more neutral position?









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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 09:04 AM
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You don't "need" the control arms if you like the -2 degrees of negative camber. If you prefer to be closer to stock, then, yes, you need the control arms so that the camber can be adjusted; without them, the camber is not adjustable.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 07:01 AM
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Wow, not one vote for the ECU Upgrade... interesting. :smile:
 
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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>>You don't "need" the control arms if you like the -2 degrees of negative camber. If you prefer to be closer to stock, then, yes, you need the control arms so that the camber can be adjusted; without them, the camber is not adjustable.

I would suggest the H-sport springs, adjustable rear swaybar, and brake pads (maybe EBC green)
Even without the adjustable control arms (two or four), a good specialty alignment shop will be able to make some adjustments to get the MINI back to factory specs. If you add the adjustable lower rear control arms then it makes it that much easier. After installing the springs alone the negative camber will be about -2.4 degrees in the rear. Stock setting is about -1 to -1.5 degrees.

second choice is the pulley and throttlebody before the EVOtech ECU upgrade for the MCS.

If for the MC then I would get lighter wheels before the ECU upgrade.
 
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