I heard there was a turbo kit for the Cooper @ Mini Mania so I posted on the site to find out the details. I wanted to know if anyone has had this kit done on their car or if you've heard good or bad things about the kit. Here's the link to the article:
Turbo Kit for Cooper post on Mini Mania

There's a link to the magazine articles, and click on the page titled 'TURBO COOPER' They said it would add 160HP to the Cooper, so how much HP would that be total if I had this done? 275HP?

Is this kit hot or not?

 

Turbo - Only for the Cooper Right? Not the S... Doesn't Vivid have a Turbo Kit?

Give it to me.

Gimme the Turbo and NOS....

GoFast

 

Well its designed to be used on the cooper since the S is already blown...but if you really wanted you could of course take your supercharger off, give it to me, and buy a turbo to replace it with.

I contacted ctrd about their kit and they are sending me a package in the mail. I know it sounds silly (why didnt I just get the S in the first place??...oh well). So I'm seriously considering getting a turbo in the upcoming months, as I think thats gonna be the only way to get decent power out of this engine.

Is this kit hot or not?

does 160hp in a bolt in kit sound hot to you (with much hp possible with the water inject kit)? It sure sounds hot to me! Just make sure you get a new drivetrain and built engine for it first though.....

 

Damn! did anyone check out those pix with the front mounted intercooler on the cooper? Now I HAVE to get that. screw the cooper S, haha!

 

My only question is why the heck did mini-mania stop selling the kit??

perhaps there is no market for it yet, but wait 4 years and I bet the market will be MUCH bigger (people buying used coopers for much cheaper and modding them to no ends).

 

that front mount intercooler looks awful. That would not last 2 weeks in a northeast winter

 

Somehow I doubt it would add 160 hp. Now, if it got the car to a total of 160 hp, that would not be surprising, but a turbocharger isn't going to more than double the car's output. Usually forced air, either in super or turbo charged form will give you a 20-50% gain in power, which is not too shabby. The S is about a 41.7% increase over the Cooper.

 

>>Somehow I doubt it would add 160 hp. Now, if it got the car to a total of 160 hp, that would not be surprising, but a turbocharger isn't going to more than double the car's output. Usually forced air, either in super or turbo charged form will give you a 20-50% gain in power, which is not too shabby. The S is about a 41.7% increase over the Cooper.


Where do you get your figures from?

The turbo system on my motorcycle almost quadruples the stock output numbers. The amount of HP increase is only a factor of how much gas your fuel system can supply and how much air can you cram in the cylinders to burn it. Other than that, as long as you can keep the motor alive, the skys the limit.

The Cooper is a 1.6 liter motor right? Well my 1.3 liter motorcycle motor makes over 500 HP and 310 foot pounds of torque. Theres no reason a Cooper shouldnt be capable of similar HP, with the appropriate engine mods.

 

A few pictures.

Velocity Racing turbo system. Garrett GT-30 dual ball bearing turbo, HKS blow off valve, Tial 40mm wastegate, Autronic SME2 fuel injection and ignition management system......too much other stuff to mention.

 

I think we're only beginning to scratch the surface on what will be done to our "lowly" Cooper...you need to look at Europe, since the car has been there longer. Just like all the Scooby guys - it takes a while before the hot stuff gets here. Give it a couple of years, and you'll have some screaming MC's around, and if the gearbox can't take it - you'll have tuners beefing that stuff up. The idea is to make our little 115 HP MINI's into sleepers - it's not an MCS so it CAN'T be fast...hahahahaha

 

>>Somehow I doubt it would add 160 hp. Now, if it got the car to a total of 160 hp, that would not be surprising, but a turbocharger isn't going to more than double the car's output. Usually forced air, either in super or turbo charged form will give you a 20-50% gain in power, which is not too shabby. The S is about a 41.7% increase over the Cooper.

Its not a 160hp gain, its 160hp total, didn't bother reading the article eh?

and they have another kit that makes more like 200hp.

 

Too much words

No, but really, I probably was too excited, but the thing is, that intercooler is SO ugly IMO. Seeing Punisher's post makes me more interested in his ideas. I think I'll wait a while. It sounds like there'll be a big market for making the standard Cooper fast. I don't want to jump on it and then something better comes out. I hate that.

Will wait for what Punisher has to offer.

 

Well I guess it is ugly, but at the same time it screems don't ****** with me, and that makes it pretty darn cool in my book.

Now I'm kind of flipping back and forth between just building it all motor, or going with a turbo. I think all motor will probably be more reliable....

 

This is insane! Turbo on a Cooper. I want it! Can the engine handle that though???Also can the CVT accomodate that? Voids the warranty for sure. Must get it though...

 

If I had the $ I'd put a turbo on my MINI...then I could sneek up on the MCS, WRX and Evo with my MC sleeper mu hahahaha!!!!

 

>>Now I'm kind of flipping back and forth between just building it all motor, or going with a turbo. I think all motor will probably be more reliable....

Actually, just the opposite is true.

Think of it this way. A turbo motor is only under stress during hard acceleration when you're building boost.

A built motor, i.e. higher compression, bigger cams and such, is under stress while its idling. Bigger cam lobes are bigger cam lobes, regardless of wether you're in the gas. Bump your compression up to 12:0 to 1 and you're at 12:0 to 1 even when you're just cruising along.

Built motors are very hard to live with and they have very short lifespans.

Also, you will never make the power with a naturally aspirated motor that you could with a forced induction setup.

 

>>If I had the $ I'd put a turbo on my MINI...then I could sneek up on the MCS

rfibanez, I see a picture of your MC in your sig....I'll be watching for you!

 

>>Built motors are very hard to live with and they have very short lifespans.
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>>Also, you will never make the power with a naturally aspirated motor that you could with a forced induction setup.
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Thanks for making me think about it like that, now I really want a turbo...thanks a lot

 

I want one, i want one...but what is the cost???

 

All MCS owners watch out for a BRG MC cruising around So Cal!!!

 

>>A few pictures.
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>>Velocity Racing turbo system. Garrett GT-30 dual ball bearing turbo, HKS blow off valve, Tial 40mm wastegate, Autronic SME2 fuel injection and ignition management system......too much other stuff to mention.
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>>:smile:

I DREAM OF ONE DAY THAT OUR MINI COOPER CAN HAVE THAT KIND OF HP.

 

Righto - someone mentioned that we're only beginning to scratch the surface on mods for the Mini, and from what I can tell, that is most definitely right.

I'll provide a parallel - I bought a 1997 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 (XJ), which is the first year they really did a major overhaul on the design and some of the underpinnings (the rear-end, for one). I began modifying it quite soon after purchase, with a bigger-than-normal lift kit and the like, and built it up for rockcrawling. I watched a cottage industry form to support people that wanted to modify their late-model XJ's, and the number of parts to modify, replace, or rebuild nearly everything became quite amazing...

The same thing will happen for the new Mini... someone will build a reliable turbo kit, and someone else will build a reliable SC kit (maybe even Jackson Racing?) for our cars... which is one reason I didn't buy the S. Of course, I have been accused of going overboard on mods... hahahaha.

 

Seriously...if a CVT can accomodate a turbo, you know I am getting one.