This is a feeler..... I spoke with Jan and he is available on the 10th. I have found a Dynapack...available all day on the 10th.... the cost is about $350 per car + $85 for dyno .... we are looking for no more than 10 cars and 6 is the minimum.... here is your chance if you are in the South East.... If you have bought the head you need the tune. You do not have to have the RMW head to get benefit...

PM me to reserve your slot......

 

Well, hopefully I can have the head ready and installed by then. I was under the impression that few more near Atlanta will have the RMW head in the near future, but maybe not by the 10th.

 

There are several here in the Southeast allready...... this date could be moved.... if we can get a good group.... but the 10th of November is pretty solid

 

I don't think I need the tune but I would love to come and see what they can do. I only have the basic mods, 15%, intake and one ball.
Please make sure to post the when and where so I can come and see how other do.

 

If anyone is in a pinch to get their head done by this date feel free to contact me and I'm sure I can oblige.

 

What the ...??? A true ECU tune? I gotta see this to believe it. If LDG can't do it then this guy can? I wanna see five alpha's proven true and blue before I jump.

 

I suggest you contact Jan and ask....

 

Why couldn't LDG do it?

btw... if you want to see the delta's on the 5 call Helix

 

Easy solution is to attend the tuning session and make your decision after seeing the deltas or as Jan mentioned just call Eric at Helix he will give you the information your looking for.

When you say LDG couldn't do it are you talking about the last time Spiderx went to LDG to get tuned?

 

It was a question not a statement about LDG.

 

count me in for atlanta on the 10th.

 

This will start the list

1) minimusprime

 

He can tune the the car's guys. He did it at Helix. PM "THDUKE" and see his results.

 

I know that there are some cars in Atlanta that could benefit from a good tune.

Probably have to make a pitch on AtlantaMINIs to get to them.

So far, the thread started there by diosdado is dormant.

What software is being used to tune the ECU?

 

Dimsport
also Diosdado is getting a head I believe

 

Jan beat me to it.

 

I do have one question.

It's based on my experience getting the Unichip tuned at two "authorized" tuners, and having two ECU tunes done at LDG.

At no time did it take less than two hours per session (and my car was fully prepped with the exhaust bung).

For the Unichip, at Hesco in Bhm, it was maybe 3-4 hours. Here in Atlanta at Batlground Performance it was 2-3 hours.

For the MINI ecu, at LDG the first time, it was 4-5 hours. The second time it was over three hours (but he was familiar with the car and had a baseline).

If there's a minimum of 6 cars, it seems that an effective first-time thorough tune would mean 12 hours minimum on the dyno in one day, and if you get 10 cars, that's 20 hours!

That's allowing for zero time (!) to get one car off and another hooked up. Realistically you could add a minimum of 30 minutes per car for that (driving in, hooking up the bung, resetting software, getting the front wheels properly coupled, and then removing the car at the end of the tune.

So now it could easily be 2.5 hours/car.

If a serious tune takes more like 3 hours, that means - at a bare minimum - 18 to at least 24 hours on one dyno in one day.

So my question (finally) is - can a minimum of 6 and a maximum of 10 cars actually be workable on a Saturday?

 

I'll guess I'll pass this time around. I was wanting to get a header and intercooler (W/A?) first, so I wouldn't need a new tune. I'm disappointed since this is probably the easiest way to get another 20 hp, some torque, and better drivability. Anyway, it'll probably be more fun feeling the improvement in the head for a while and then getting a tune sometime next year.

I have an automatic (stop and go traffic daily driver) and with the dimsport I think the automatic shift point at 6750 can be changed to match a higher rev limit.

Now I would love to see the results on Dane's M62 with a big valve head

 

the longest it has ever taken for a car is 2.5hrs and it was because we were scaling 440cc injectors.... not sure why it took them so long, they must not have had a good base map
I will gladly tune on Sunday too... time is not the issue for me

 

Thanks, Jan.

In the case of the Unichip tuners, they didn't have much base to go on. In fact, they had to correct the Unichip tune.

LDG just took a long time as John was looking at so many parameters. Plus, I had a slipping clutch the first time (and the car was at 15k miles).

The second visit was where he discovered that my new JCW belt was slipping and he repalced it with the correct belt, and when he applied the torque management adjustments as well. Frankly, I was impressed that he was so thorough.

But this thread isn't about that.

Your time estimates are obviously better, now that I think about it, because of the unusual situations stated above.

I do hope you can come to Atlanta and help some of the hard-core folks here.

In fact, I hope to be able to drop by and say hello.

 

I understand completely.... the first thing everyone who is coming better make sure the belt is proper or we will be wasting a bunch of time.
I have spent many hrs on the dyno perfecting base maps. It speeds up the time considerably. You always find a car or two that is stubborn and needs much more massaging. We had a couple at Helix but in the end we had great results.

 

just so we are clear jan. which belt do you think is the best for a 15%?

If you do end up coming i'll bring an extra 2-3 belts and tools to change them while you are tuning. we can set up a little pre-run checklist thingy that will keep us moving along.

 

That's a great idea.

 

First, let me say - I think that tuning parties are a great ideas. And congrats to Jan for taking this on. Some of you know that I got LDG to come to Miami to experiment with the Tuning Party Idea. Let me share some insight to what we learned.

1) using someone elses dyno for the first time, makes it just that much more challanging for the tuner. Very important for Jan to know as much about the set-up as possible as well as interrnet connectivity, ect....

2) important to have local dyno support - getting cars on, strapped down, ect.... so Jan is just focusing on the program loads and data ONLY.

3) VERY important - cars needs to go through a pre-check before Jan arrives. No belts slipping, clutch is good ( ) ect.......

4) Once people sign up - cars should be grouped - start w/ lightly moded moving to most complex set-ups.

5) have lunch and beverages brought in.

Finally to answer your question, we did 7 cars in one day BUT MOST WERE SIMILARLY MODDED (pully,CAI & exhaust). LDG had deveoped a base file for these cars and he just had to tweak the file a bit for each car. So we did a pre dyno, post dyno w/ base file and then a second post dyno w/ tweak on average.

The downloads / uploads take time for its a slow process. I will assume Jan has developed some base files from which to work from, he might be able to do 6-8 in one day. 10 cars would be a stretch.

While we had some difficulties that day w/ the quality of the dyno - all in all we had a great day when LDG came down. We got stronger running cars, we all learned a lot and had a great time hanging out togther.

 

so who is on the list....