After 50k+ miles of motoring, I'm about ready to get new brakes. My rotors have a definite lip around the edge and I'm sure the pads are close to the end of their service life. I have an early '02 so I don't have pad sensors (I'll be checking the pads this weekend when I can get the wheels off). I'm looking for suggestions on good pads and rotors for the street. I'd like to have less dust, good service life, and stock level or better stopping power. Anyone have any opinions? Thanks.

 

I went with M7 rotors and Hawk HPS pads also added SS. brake lines. Much better feel and they look cool . Can post pics if you like.

 

They look cool but I'm not sure I want drilled AND slotted rotors. Slotted, maybe, but not drilled. I have heard good things about the HPS pads. Those are on the top of my list currently.

 

Why not drilled? I know some people that track their cars say they crack and stuff but, look at any race car out there and they have drilled rotors. Also have you seen TSW's new BBK, WOW they are nice!

 

Any race car out there does not have drilled rotors. Sure, some do, but they probably have the budget to changes rotors quite often. It is a proven fact that for road racing drilled rotors are no longer the answer. Dirt track racers need them to help keep the rotors clean.

I leave you with this...

A brake rotor is designed to do one thing: Convert kinetic (moving) energy to thermal energy (heat). What handles more heat- A cast-iron kettle or a pizza pan with holes in it?

 

I have Ferodo DS 2500 front and rear with ATE super blue and ss lines, Tyrolsport caliper bushings, and Powerslot slotted rotors and the car stops on a dime on the street. I have this setup on both my cars (04 MCS and 06 MCS) and my wife loves it as well (she drives the 06).

Upgrading to 3000's for the fronts for the track.

 

There are rotors that have holes that aren't "drilled". I just want to point that out. A lot of the aftermarket "drilled" rotors are exactly that "drilled" after casting. There are some companies out there that are cast with the holes in them to begin with. All the cracked rotor stories you hear are from rotors that weren't created as "drilled" to begin with.

 

Having had some exprience with casting, I would say that casting the holes in a rotor would not necessarily solve all the problems with holes. The mold the steel is cast into would have little pillars where the holes would be. As the molten steel flows in, there could be turbulence around those pillars. This could lead to porosity or other problems there.

It seems to me that you could accomplish with slots anything you would with holes. Other than to impress teenagers, what is the purpose of holes?

 

I believe there is still $1000 on the table from Todd Cook of TCE for anyone that can prove there are rotors with cast in holes. I know he has posted that offer on multiple forums.

 

Ok, to get this thread a little back OT. There are a few reasons why I don't want drilled rotors. One, as evidenced by the last several posts, they crack. Two, they reduce brake surface area (so do slots but slots don't crack...). I believe drilled rotors do a better job at dissipating heat but I won't be tracking the car so I don't need them.

Does anyone have any info on the ATE PremiumOne slotted rotors? They seem to be an interesting rotor design from a reputable company. I'm also looking at the Brembo replacement rotors or Powerslot if I feel like spending a little more money. I know several guys on here run the Powerslots but does anyone have either of the other two? Also, what kind of service life should I expect for these rotors compared to stock?

 

Look at TSW rotors too. On par with all the brands mentioned.

 

All what brands?

 

From the post above my post...

Brembo , ATE and Powerslot.

 

Oh, yea we had a club member install the new BBK from TSW, they are nice .

 

I forgot about those TSW rotors. They look like the ATE's, just backwards. I might have to give those a try...good price too.

 

kapps, here you go:





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If the car is not to be tracked then just use the standard replacement rotor. ATE is the oem supplier and they work fine. Use a good performance pad and you will be fine for street use. EBC greenstuffs or Hawk HPS should be fine for street use. In my experience the Hawks are noisier and create more dust then EBC.

For what it is worth, I use the ATE oem replacement rotor with Carbotech 10 front and 9 rear with SS lines on the track, then swap to another set of ATE oem rotors and wagner pads for the street.

If you wory about things like brake fade on the street, you probably just need to slow down, and find a racetrack.

 

Been happy with EBC for street - low dust

this seems like a decent package http://new.minimania.com/web/Item/NM.../InvDetail.cfm

 

Not sure about the EBC's, but my HPS pads make 10 times less dust than the OEM pads .