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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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Peter also told me that the M7 coilovers were...

not made in Asia.

Wow! I am away for a few weeks and all hell breaks loose!

I remember it well because I was really interested in these. But, I was a little pissed that M7 was not complying with the Country Of Origin Law which requires that the product be labeled with the country of origin.

It was the first Saturday of the month, I think July, at the Coogies beakfast run on PCH in Malibu. I and some other people were standing in front of Peter's **** yellow '07 Cooper S. Peter gave me one of his coilovers to hold and look at. I noticed right away the poor build and material quailty. The treads were burred, the finish was uneven with silver showing through the black in some places, the mount had 2 tiny, poor quality welds holding it on, and I could barely feel the detents in the adjuster. My exact words to Peter were, "where are these things made?" I don't remember his first exact answer. I was something like, "I can not divulge that information." Then, someone standing around asked a question, but I can't remember the question. Then, someone else said something at about the same time as the last question, so I really didn't get what either person said. Then, Peter's exact words were, "the only thing I can tell you", and he said it as if he was doing us a big favor, "is they are not made in Asia." I believe he said that because someone mentioned Asia. Then someone said something, I don't remember what. then Peter said something to the effect that, "we looked into sourcing them from Asia but the quality was not good enough." I don't remember his exact words on the last quote.

I think it is really a shame. If he would have told us from the get go where these were made, I would have bought them. They are pretty inexpensive, so if I had a problem with one or two I could get them fixed, and they have all the features that I am looking for. The only thing I am worried about is their quality and longevity. But, Peter lied to us! But, no other coilovers have all the features I am looking for. So for now my Cooper S has OEM suspension and I don't know what to do about it. And that sucks!
 

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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CynMini
They are pretty inexpensive, so if I had a problem with one or two I could get them fixed, and they have all the features that I am looking for. The only thing I am worried about is their quality and longevity. But, Peter lied to us! But, no other coilovers have all the features I am looking for. So for now my Cooper S has OEM suspension and I don't know what to do about it. And that sucks!
What features are you looking for?
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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Save up a bit longer and go with the CROSS Competition Coilovers. You WILL NOT be disappointed. It's basically stock ride quality on RAILS. I bought mine from Jan at Revolution MINI. Let him know I sent ya .

If you don't want to spend that much, the Megan's are great, i've heard they're a bit bouncy though.


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not made in Asia.

Wow! I am away for a few weeks and all hell breaks loose!

I remember it well because I was really interested in these. But, I was a little pissed that M7 was not complying with the Country Of Origin Law which requires that the product be labeled with the country of origin.

It was the first Saturday of the month, I think July, at the Coogies beakfast run on PCH in Malibu. I and some other people were standing in front of Peter's **** yellow '07 Cooper S. Peter gave me one of his coilovers to hold and look at. I noticed right away the poor build and material quailty. The treads were burred, the finish was uneven with silver showing through the black in some places, the mount had 2 tiny, poor quality welds holding it on, and I could barely feel the detents in the adjuster. My exact words to Peter were, "where are these things made?" I don't remember his first exact answer. I was something like, "I can not divulge that information." Then, someone standing around asked a question, but I can't remember the question. Then, someone else said something at about the same time as the last question, so I really didn't get what either person said. Then, Peter's exact words were, "the only thing I can tell you", and he said it as if he was doing us a big favor, "is they are not made in Asia." I believe he said that because someone mentioned Asia. Then someone said something, I don't remember what. then Peter said something to the effect that, "we looked into sourcing them from Asia but the quality was not good enough." I don't remember his exact words on the last quote.

I think it is really a shame. If he would have told us from the get go where these were made, I would have bought them. They are pretty inexpensive, so if I had a problem with one or two I could get them fixed, and they have all the features that I am looking for. The only thing I am worried about is their quality and longevity. But, Peter lied to us! But, no other coilovers have all the features I am looking for. So for now my Cooper S has OEM suspension and I don't know what to do about it. And that sucks!
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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seems to me like u dont remember alot of the convo or u were only hearing what u wanted to hear. im not saying ur a liar either its just my 2 cents
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 06:47 AM
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What concerns me here is that the OP first blasts the quality of the coil-overs but then notes he would hvave bought them anyway if not lied to (about the Asian manufacture). While I wouldn't buy from someoen who lied to me, is not the relevant question whther or not the product is a quality product, not where it comes from?
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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LOL

Welcome to the world of M7......................
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:41 AM
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Not this again...
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SayGoodbye
What features are you looking for?
I really like the easy adjustability. I really don't want to drill holes in the rear so I can adjust other coilovers.
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:47 AM
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AAAAAAAnnnnnnnnd we're off!
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by LynnEl
What concerns me here is that the OP first blasts the quality of the coil-overs but then notes he would hvave bought them anyway if not lied to (about the Asian manufacture). While I wouldn't buy from someoen who lied to me, is not the relevant question whther or not the product is a quality product, not where it comes from?
At first I was ready to buy them. But some of my questions were not being answered. If my questions were answered I would have ordered them sight unseen, Which, I think would have been a mistake. But I admit I could be wrong. They are not the prettiest coilovers I have seen, The qualit doesn't look good on the outside. But, for all I know they could be very reliable and last a long time. Only time will tell.
 
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I predict this thread will be locked by 9:07PM
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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Interesting

Got a PM from Peter:

I'm sure you' feel all important posting that drivel....(no one cares).
We sell all we can bring in because they are as good as I said. Go back to your friends at Mininuts, I'm sure they will feel sorry for you.....

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I guess he thinks this whole thing is funny.
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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Must we go through this again? Yes, it is know all the information requested was not given out. Yes, we've been over it many many times.

Also, if you do not hold a B.S. in engineering focusing on strength of materials, manufacturing processes, and a vast amount of experience in the design of coil-overs you have no right to be commenting on the quality simply by holding them.

I'm really getting tired of these m7 threads "the build quality looks bad so I don't think it will be very good, but I've never owned anything like it, but it's my point of view." It's like saying "I think crystals can cure cancer, I don't have any knowledge of cancer or crystals, but it's my point of view." Move on already.
 
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Did someone say 9:07pm? I'm going with no later than 7pm eastern.

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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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Are we talking eastern, central, mountain or whatever? I'm going for 11;45am EST
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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If you don't like them, don't buy them!

However don't bad mouth them when you really don't know anything about them and haven't used them on your car.
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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LOL it's still a bunch of M7 smoke and mirror BS. Just read Peter's response. Does that look like something a respectable vendor would write?
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CynMini
I really like the easy adjustability. I really don't want to drill holes in the rear so I can adjust other coilovers.
Do you plan on adjusting your ride height on a frequent basis? If so, for what purpose (ie. going from street to autocross)?
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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I think the he/she's talking about the dampening. Most coilovers require the suspension to be dropped in the rear, or an adjuster cable to be snaked into the cabin to adjust dampening. Height I would think is only adjustable when jacking the car up and turning the little rings.

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Do you plan on adjusting your ride height on a frequent basis? If so, for what purpose (ie. going from street to autocross)?
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rustyboy155
I think the he/she's talking about the dampening. Most coilovers require the suspension to be dropped in the rear, or an adjuster cable to be snaked into the cabin to adjust dampening. Height I would think is only adjustable when jacking the car up and turning the little rings.
Ahh...thought the M7 might be special.
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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This is just another ploy by the MININUTS to discredit Peter and M7. You can read their not-so-secret thread here: http://www.mininuts.com/forum/index....2&min=0&num=15

Those freaks need to get a life.
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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probably made in Mexico. then you dont have to label it if sold in the US.... i think it was. anyone with NAFTA experience?
 
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Krassanova
This is just another ploy by the MININUTS to discredit Peter and M7. You can read their not-so-secret thread here: http://www.mininuts.com/forum/index....2&min=0&num=15

Those freaks need to get a life.
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Originally Posted by SayGoodbye
Do you plan on adjusting your ride height on a frequent basis? If so, for what purpose (ie. going from street to autocross)?
It would be hard to adjust from street to autocross everytime without throwing your alignment out of wack everytime you did it......which wouldn't work so well at the autocross.
 



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