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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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Would a 0 offset wheel with arches work?

I really love the deep lip look, but would this even work? Here it is on a Scion xb...




I am thinking about the Sportmax 002 Wheel...








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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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Well it looks like that 240 has proven the offset is not a good fit for a lot of cars. Notice the missing front fender. LOL!

I really don't think they will work. You are moving the lip of the wheel out almost 2 inches from stock. The liners on our cars also have a significant lip on the underside that is plastic and as a result can not be rolled up. You could have the fenders pulled and customized but that gets pretty expensive and is an iffy proposition baseline.

I would look to another wheel. There are multiple choices out there that allow you to have a decent lip without the interference issues you are gonna face with an extremely low offset wheel.
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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With a 205/45/17 you can use up to 23mm offset up front and 33mm offset in the rear. The rubbing will be minor, but also based on ride height and camber....also depends on the character of the tire's shoulder.

I use these offsets for daily driving and track. I let the tires rub away some of the liner as this gave me a clear indication of where to remove more liner. No biggy.

A wider track up front will add to roll resistance and therefore acts like using heavier rate springs and a bigger bar. But, the wider track also allow the tires to perform much more work. Turn-in will not be as instantaneous; although the actual ackerman angle does not change, the width of the angles do.

Bearing wear may or may not be a problem - I do not have problems yet - but it's all good. Motion ratio will change a bit...7.5% if I remember up front and camber compensation will be weaker in the back because the wheel follows a wider arc as it moves thru its stroke - need a bit more static neg camber out back....but this depends on ride height too. Just check stock values and keep those in a note book so you have some baseline to go back to...advice I forget on more than occasion.
 

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Old May 15, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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how 'bout a et25 front and rear on an 18X8? Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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An 8" wide wheel will pose a problem...mine are 7" wide and I should have included that information I don't think a 7.5" will work either...if you go wider, decrease the radius...nice gearing advantage too!
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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Thanks!
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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So...it COULD work?
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by '*Ace*'
So...it COULD work?
of course, I'm about to run 15x8 et15 and 15mm really isnt much more
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Nice!
Are you going to put flares on?
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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Nice!
Are you going to put flares on?
Maybe later in life....but I'm a pretty big fan of a little poke. And I'm running 7's up front so it's really just for the rears
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RallyMINI
of course, I'm about to run 15x8 et15 and 15mm really isnt much more
i wanna see this, it sounds sweeeeet
 
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Old May 16, 2007 | 12:00 AM
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i wanna see this, it sounds sweeeeet

still waiting on some custom made lips for the wheels....then the pics will come
 
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:11 AM
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awesome stuff
 
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