Suspension Two weeks with the H&R Sportcoilover - a review
Two weeks with the H&R Sportcoilover - a review
Don and I have worked out the spring problem and it should be fixed in about two-three weeks. Still, this kit is a very nice kit for those who do not want or need damper adjustability - and it's basically not necessary.
The ride is quite good and should improve with a different set of front springs. I've been pushing the car harder than I ever have on the street and it is very easy to control...harder will require a race track. But in some cases I'm 7-10 mph faster thru turns
...that's due to huge confidence in the components, and, the components. I don't normally stare at the speedometer, but I was sort of alarmed by how fast I went yesterday.
With all of my other components installed, balance is still drop throttle understeer - very slight - and on throttle where you want to go on longish sweepers. The car is a little resistant to drop throttle turn-in in tight turns, but a little rear bar adjusment/experiment is all that need be done...but if that comes at the expense of the high speed stability, I can live with it for sure.
The standout improvment over last year's setup is braking stability. The car is incredibly stable under hard braking. Mind you, these are street observations. I do not expect any difference at the track, however.
This is really a great kit with only height adjustment.
The ride is quite good and should improve with a different set of front springs. I've been pushing the car harder than I ever have on the street and it is very easy to control...harder will require a race track. But in some cases I'm 7-10 mph faster thru turns
...that's due to huge confidence in the components, and, the components. I don't normally stare at the speedometer, but I was sort of alarmed by how fast I went yesterday.With all of my other components installed, balance is still drop throttle understeer - very slight - and on throttle where you want to go on longish sweepers. The car is a little resistant to drop throttle turn-in in tight turns, but a little rear bar adjusment/experiment is all that need be done...but if that comes at the expense of the high speed stability, I can live with it for sure.
The standout improvment over last year's setup is braking stability. The car is incredibly stable under hard braking. Mind you, these are street observations. I do not expect any difference at the track, however.
This is really a great kit with only height adjustment.
Last edited by meb; May 10, 2007 at 06:14 AM.
For everyday, night and day. At the track, dunno yet.
My first event this year is potentially at the Glen on June 18th...I'll see then...but hopefully, I'll have had a chance to drive with Don and really learn the track.
My first event this year is potentially at the Glen on June 18th...I'll see then...but hopefully, I'll have had a chance to drive with Don and really learn the track.
The review from Bart at the Dragon is that Don can really drive..... sounds like fun.... good luck with the new set up
On the market for a while. And to be clear, the spring problem is less so if you have a really thick camber plate, one that raises ride height.
I don't happen to like the slammed look - and I dont have it now. But if I were to set this up with a couple more coils working, it would be slammed. The ride height is correct for the track.
I've not driven with Don, but I'm looking forward to it. I just hope he doesn't do what my other friend does while I'm along for a ride...a thumbs down in the driver's face means pull into the pits. Patrick - my friend - pays no attention to a thumbs down because he trys to make me sick. He unfortunately does not suffer from motion sickness. I am sure that if I did blow chow in his car at speed, it would be all over the place
...and, that smell along with race fuel fumes ought to be enough to make anyone sick
I don't happen to like the slammed look - and I dont have it now. But if I were to set this up with a couple more coils working, it would be slammed. The ride height is correct for the track.
I've not driven with Don, but I'm looking forward to it. I just hope he doesn't do what my other friend does while I'm along for a ride...a thumbs down in the driver's face means pull into the pits. Patrick - my friend - pays no attention to a thumbs down because he trys to make me sick. He unfortunately does not suffer from motion sickness. I am sure that if I did blow chow in his car at speed, it would be all over the place
...and, that smell along with race fuel fumes ought to be enough to make anyone sick
I can only echo Meb's comments about the H&Rs. I have been in love with mine since I put them on the car 2 years ago. The ability to adjust dampening, ala' PSS9s, is simply over rated when you get miles on the track, AutoX course, and the road with these units.
I have had ZERO problems with them in all those miles. Track days, multiple sessions on the autocross, multiple days in the mountains and canyons. Just continued solid ride. When dialed in with the proper camber, and rear swaybar adjustment, 4 wheel drifts and mild oversteer and only a couple of light finger touches away.
I have these paired up with:
Helix camber plates
Webb extreme rear anti-swaybar
H-Sport control arms
Poly front bushings
OZ Superleggar wheels
Toyo T1Rs
With the Toyos the car had no squirm, wobble or body roll. It simply turned. The video of the car at AutoX is kinda funy because it looks doctored. The car just slides areound the corners. No body roll, no hesitation. I now have some new Falkens and they are too new to make a educated assesment of how this has changed things, but my intial impression is significantly more squirm. But then they are half the price of the Toyos.
Offsetting this, on the road it is very drivable. it is stiffer than stock, but much more supple than any spring/OEM strut setup I have ridden in or driven on.
H&R FTW
I have had ZERO problems with them in all those miles. Track days, multiple sessions on the autocross, multiple days in the mountains and canyons. Just continued solid ride. When dialed in with the proper camber, and rear swaybar adjustment, 4 wheel drifts and mild oversteer and only a couple of light finger touches away.
I have these paired up with:
Helix camber plates
Webb extreme rear anti-swaybar
H-Sport control arms
Poly front bushings
OZ Superleggar wheels
Toyo T1Rs
With the Toyos the car had no squirm, wobble or body roll. It simply turned. The video of the car at AutoX is kinda funy because it looks doctored. The car just slides areound the corners. No body roll, no hesitation. I now have some new Falkens and they are too new to make a educated assesment of how this has changed things, but my intial impression is significantly more squirm. But then they are half the price of the Toyos.
Offsetting this, on the road it is very drivable. it is stiffer than stock, but much more supple than any spring/OEM strut setup I have ridden in or driven on.
H&R FTW
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