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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 09:13 AM
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Thanks much for the info...am surprised still close to 100 are left given the reservation windows have been open for a week now
I am not surprised at all ... this is a very limited audience and most of the original GP1/GP2 original owners have moved on. Those who picked them up second hand are not likely in the market or willing to spend the $$ for a GP3. There has also been a lot of belly-aching about the price and styling, which really cracks me up. The production vehicle does a great job of emulating the concept car (which few do) and the "add-ons" are truly functional. It makes for a visually arresting package that can back up its looks with performance. If you adjust the 2013 GP2 MSRP for inflation, it would be approximately $45K ... which is spot on. Not to mention the HUGE advancement in performance modifications on the 2021 model.

I hope they all sell and that dealers don't try and take advantage of the customers by inflating the price. I like that MINI did what they could to prevent dealers from grabbing the vehicles for stock and making this a pre-sale event focused on loyalty.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JKo
I thought the GP3 has a dual clutch box (and JCW Clubby too), not a traditional slush-box transferring power in to heat..?
GP3, JCW and ALL4 models use the AISIN 8-speed automatic. Front wheel drive MINI Cooper/Cooper S models use the 7-speed double-clutch transmission. The PHEV uses the AISIN 6-speed automatic.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 09:34 AM
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What he said...
This has been written in the articles posted here. I believe it has also been noted above that the MINI DCT has a torque rating lower than JCW/GP output.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2019 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MINIwuff
GP3, JCW and ALL4 models use the AISIN 8-speed automatic. Front wheel drive MINI Cooper/Cooper S models use the 7-speed double-clutch transmission. The PHEV uses the AISIN 6-speed automatic.
Thanks, must have missed that bit earlier.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2019 | 02:04 PM
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A couple of questions for those who are going to actually buy a GP:

Will any of you use it as a daily driver?

Does anyone know if the air intake box/air filter/air intake plumbing from box to turbo differs from what they are using in the factory stock S or JCW set up?

While, IMHO, some of the fender treatment is a bit over-the-top, I totally get why some of you are willing to line up and fork over the loot for these little beasties. Special cars for sure!!

Thanks.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2019 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 2017All4
A couple of questions for those who are going to actually buy a GP:

Will any of you use it as a daily driver?

Does anyone know if the air intake box/air filter/air intake plumbing from box to turbo differs from what they are using in the factory stock S or JCW set up?

While, IMHO, some of the fender treatment is a bit over-the-top, I totally get why some of you are willing to line up and fork over the loot for these little beasties. Special cars for sure!!

Thanks.
It will definitely be my daily driver if I manage to snag one. And my track car, too.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2019 | 07:38 PM
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I’ve got my name in the hat as well. As a prior R53 owner was able to reserve earlier than gen pub. Hugely speculative but they are thinking a June-ish production/delivery.

I’m on the fence with the flairs but I will say the whole package is growing on me as I see more pics/vids and am really looking forward to delivery. could always invest in an extra set and have them painted body color. For those concerned over clensability, I suspect, for those that hand wash their cars, the gap will be little, if any, concern. There are plenty of other gaps and crevices on cars that are equally tricky to clean/wax.

While it would’ve been nice to have a manual gear box, I’ve become a fan of the “automatics” with paddle shifters. It may not be for all but I doubt it will disappoint me. Besides, this way my wife can have some of the fun as well! LOL

I’ll post updates as I receive them. And thanks to those that have posted pics from the car shows and for all the great info. Keep it coming.


 
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Old Nov 28, 2019 | 05:30 AM
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I was surprised to find that I could left foot brake on the loaner Clubman I have. I can’t do this on my R56 S with the manual; left foot braking kills the engine power on that car and it takes forever for the power to return. On the Clubman (S model with the turbo) with the AT, at about 30 mph I got a nice grunt from the engine with both pedals pressed. On my R56 S, if I try this, I get nothing from the engine. I expect the GP3 will be the same as the Clubman and that will be great for those looking to take the GP3 to the track. The GP3 is looking better and better with each thing I find out about it...
 
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Old Dec 2, 2019 | 12:16 PM
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I talked to the sales manager at my MINI dealer and she says that they have orders for 4 GP3s coming through their dealership. Good for them. And it seems like they are selling, if that is any indication.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 07:01 AM
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I talked to the sales manager at my MINI dealer and she says that they have orders for 4 GP3s coming through their dealership. Good for them. And it seems like they are selling, if that is any indication.
As per my dealer apparently 300 out of the 465 cars for US have already been booked by Current GP and Mini Owners. The current window is open ONLY for general public. The dealer is hoping if the remaining 165 don’t get sold out then they might get Atleast 1 for the floor 😊
 
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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 07:17 AM
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This is great news, we had some glitches with our original order twice, but I guess the third time was truly a charm. We are really looking forward to welcoming our newest mini home! I think we will order it with all the options as our favorite running area is a good distance from home and we don't plan to sweat and stink for over 200 miles one way! Bring on the twisties! I really would like to have the chrono pack in it, but I don't think it was an option. I prefer analog gauges to digital and I really liked it as it was right in my sight line, but I can make do and hopefully adapt to the digital display.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 08:09 AM
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This is great news, we had some glitches with our original order twice, but I guess the third time was truly a charm. We are really looking forward to welcoming our newest mini home! I think we will order it with all the options as our favorite running area is a good distance from home and we don't plan to sweat and stink for over 200 miles one way! Bring on the twisties! I really would like to have the chrono pack in it, but I don't think it was an option. I prefer analog gauges to digital and I really liked it as it was right in my sight line, but I can make do and hopefully adapt to the digital display.
Dan,

We took a trip with our son & his wife on Thanksgiving Day, and he was in a new BMW 330i that had digital gauges. Their X1 was at the dealer for warranty work, so they had a loaner. Our son really put that 330i through the paces though...very quick! The digital gauges were actually quite nice, and I was impressed. I am like you though, nothing like analog gauges for sure! I hope you get your GP3 with all the bells & whistles!
 
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 2017All4
A couple of questions for those who are going to actually buy a GP:

Will any of you use it as a daily driver?

Does anyone know if the air intake box/air filter/air intake plumbing from box to turbo differs from what they are using in the factory stock S or JCW set up?

While, IMHO, some of the fender treatment is a bit over-the-top, I totally get why some of you are willing to line up and fork over the loot for these little beasties. Special cars for sure!!

Thanks.
Complete different, bigger diameters, i mentioned 3 month ago which parts are used.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2019 | 03:21 AM
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Had a little play in Photoshop to tone down the red front a little, add red mirror caps, black belt line and debadge the bonnet.



JCW, GP3
 
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Old Dec 15, 2019 | 05:06 AM
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It does seem that red MINI used is Is a little much.

Toning it down gives it an interesting look.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2019 | 05:41 AM
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Maybe you can make a silk purse from a sow's ear! Definitely an improvement.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 12:56 PM
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Yes that looks better. But what that does is make it look more like the JCW HB with those black plastic fenders. And they blend in with the body more because the car's black too. I can just see those things looking like hell after a couple of years. You'll need to buy stock in Black Wow lol. Maybe see if you can get it in a spray can like tire shine!
 
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 01:04 PM
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We are considering a vinyl wrap. It would have a secondary benefit to protect it somewhat from road rash.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 02:12 PM
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Black PlasticDip spray them...
Saw a whole car done with that. Looked really good.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 02:25 PM
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Heck I can't paint worth a darn no matter what I use. And, I really want it to look stellar. I thought about having it ceramic coated, but I really don't care for the factory paint scheme. I will have it tweaked to suit my preferences and hopefully make it more like the original concept. And, the wrap can be removed when it becomes shoddy after a lot of twisties. Our poor JCW has more road rash than paint and the windscreen is really pock marked!
 
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 06:10 PM
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Wrapped my S 3.5 years ago, liquid silver to Avery metallic black. Still looks great. Front chip repair: paper punch a disc from a piece of leftover scrap, apply. About a 30 second repair. Not visible. Road rash gone. Windshield is a different matter.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 01:04 PM
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Front chip repair: paper punch a disc from a piece of leftover scrap, apply. About a 30 second repair. Not visible. Road rash gone.
A disc from a piece of leftover scrap what? And apply with that?
 
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 01:38 PM
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Avery vinyl wrap. Self adhesive.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 06:26 AM
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I thought I read somewhere in my cyber travels that we were supposed to order the GP this month, December, for delivery sometime next year. I think the delivery was to begin possibly in late March. Have any of you heard anything from mini about the actual delivery time frame?
 
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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 12:06 PM
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Nope. Impatiently waiting.
 
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