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Interior/Exterior 1st. Gen. JCW brake upgrade on the cheap

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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 12:31 PM
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 01:29 PM
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So far I have purchased a set of 2011 R56 S front calipers, Red Stuff brake pads, Centric (aka Stop Tech) Slotted and Drilled rotors, all 3 sizes of the JCW Original style decals (still was not sure which ones will fit). Now I'm shopping for a set of SS brake lines. I will pick up the brake paint locally unless someone knows where to buy it cheap on line.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mib4840
So far I have purchased a set of 2011 R56 S front calipers, Red Stuff brake pads, Centric (aka Stop Tech) Slotted and Drilled rotors, all 3 sizes of the JCW Original style decals (still was not sure which ones will fit). Now I'm shopping for a set of SS brake lines. I will pick up the brake paint locally unless someone knows where to buy it cheap on line.
If you get the measure of the original decals please let me know.
Same thing with the paint, im not sure what the best option is.
i bought this brake lines for mine http://www.ecstuning.com/ES2593434/
 
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 01:57 PM
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Please dont forget that if you are doing this upgrade on a R53, you have to get a custom set of SS brake lines R56 Front Lines and R53 Rear Lines.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by c0op3r
Please dont forget that if you are doing this upgrade on a R53, you have to get a custom set of SS brake lines R56 Front Lines and R53 Rear Lines.
it's necessary to change the rear lines too?
PD: a friend is measuring the decals as we speak... he got the factory build JCW R53...
 
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 03:28 PM
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Rear Lines on the R56 to the R53 Brake Upgrade are the same, but the R56 to the R53 Front REQUIRES that you use R56 Style Front Brake Lines
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 03:17 PM
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Some stickers here :http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brake-Decal-Sticker-fit-Mini-Cooper-S-works-brake-caliper-front-or-rear-option-/190776745033?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item2c6b2e1c49
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by c0op3r
Rear Lines on the R56 to the R53 Brake Upgrade are the same, but the R56 to the R53 Front REQUIRES that you use R56 Style Front Brake Lines
c0op3r - you've inspired me to do this upgrade! Picked up some r56 front calipers at a junkyard today. Your guide seems to suggest that the r53 and r56 rear calipers are the same, and so the only thing I need to do is take them off to paint them. Is this correct?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by exocet
c0op3r - you've inspired me to do this upgrade! Picked up some r56 front calipers at a junkyard today. Your guide seems to suggest that the r53 and r56 rear calipers are the same, and so the only thing I need to do is take them off to paint them. Is this correct?
Cool - did you get R56 S or justa' calipers?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 06:11 PM
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Justa. Went for the bang-for-your-buck option. They'll do for me since I don't track.

Is there any difference between rear r53 and r56 Justa calipers? I assumed not from your guide.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 07:22 PM
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No physical difference, So if you want to go all the way on the rears, Paint them and sticker and if you want them even better:

http://www.c0op3r.com/MINI/RearBrakes.html

 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 07:27 PM
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Thanks dude. I will be following your guide.

When you painted the fronts did you allow extra time for the red to dry before applying clear? Did you cure the paint at all? I won't be putting them on the car straight away and prefer not to use the household oven. If the paint will cure at room temp over a couple of weeks, that will work great for me.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 07:32 PM
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I cleaned them thoroughly with soap and simple green, sprayed them in Florida 80°F+ temp with 3 coats 15 to 20 minutes between coats.

I let that cure over night, applied stickers the next day and clear coated them in place with two coats, one over the whole brake, and the second mainly over the stickers. Let cure over night and installed the next morning.

Are you going to do the Brass Bushings? I highly suggest it since you will have them apart anyway.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 07:41 PM
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Thanks - i'll follow that methodology. A couple of weeks and we'll be at 80deg in Houston :D

Yes, I'll be going to the brass bushings and stainless lines. How often do the bushings require lubrication?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 07:50 PM
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Yes, I'll be going to the brass bushings and stainless lines. How often do the bushings require lubrication?
Put a dab of the copper impregnated grease on the Stainless Steel Post, and rub it so its thin and even and I have never had to mess with it again since.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by c0op3r
I cleaned them thoroughly with soap and simple green, sprayed them in Florida 80°F+ temp with 3 coats 15 to 20 minutes between coats.

I let that cure over night, applied stickers the next day and clear coated them in place with two coats, one over the whole brake, and the second mainly over the stickers. Let cure over night and installed the next morning.

Are you going to do the Brass Bushings? I highly suggest it since you will have them apart anyway.
Brass bushings, I forgot about that! Im still waiting for my stickers and stainless lines to arrive and 'cos I´m in the end of the world it always take time, so may be I can buy the bushings meanwhile. Where I can find them?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 06:24 AM
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Because I'm a quantitative data kinda guy, has anyone ever measured the improvement of 60-0mph performance after this "upgrade" ? Just curious as to how much of an improvement it actually is over a nice set of pads, lines, and quality fluid applied to stock R53 brakes.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Vitovillabilbao
Brass bushings, I forgot about that! Im still waiting for my stickers and stainless lines to arrive and 'cos I´m in the end of the world it always take time, so may be I can buy the bushings meanwhile. Where I can find them?
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 12:17 PM
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I just received my JCW stickers. It looks like this sticker fits the FRONT brakes the best; Brake Decals to fit john cooper works, Brake JCW: Red White Black , Size: JCW Original front 13x75mm. I am not sure about the rears yet. Another question for you c0op3r, and I know I read something about it. I bought 2011 R56S rotors, am I going to have an issue with the lug bolt and hub hole sizes?
 
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 12:19 PM
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Another question for you c0op3r, and I know I read something about it. I bought 2011 R56S rotors, am I going to have an issue with the lug bolt and hub hole sizes?

Nope
 
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 12:22 PM
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If I do this will my present 16" wheels (type 84) still fit? And what about my 15" holies?
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 09:35 AM
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On the 16" I am not 100% sure but it should just fit, the 15" are a solid NO.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JAB 67
If I do this will my present 16" wheels (type 84) still fit? And what about my 15" holies?
I had my R84s over the brakes. However, I had to get them re-balanced using the clip on weights that go on the edges. It's TIGHT. Holies will not fit.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 06:25 AM
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I was not aware that the TYROLSPORT Brass Bushing Kits were available for the newer JCW front calipers, only the rears (which are the same as the Series 1). Can someone enlighten me?
 
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