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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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I have been looking for new lower grill to replace the plastic one that was constantly becoming unclipped on the bottom and found one from M7 that has an additional benefit that may actually be more import in the long run. This one is open completely across the entire lower opening which if you look at the stock one was not the case by a long shot. This will certainly offer more cooling air for the engine compartment . It is made of black powder coated metal and is mounted securely with three screws. I will try to take some better photos soon but at least you can get the idea as to what it looks like. It will also be offered in silver. Randy





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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 02:34 PM
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That's a great look! Where did you say you got it? Do you have a link?
 
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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NICE !!! :smile:

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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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The source was M7. The best contact is 1 562 712 3270. The web site is still being finished but the url is http://www.M7speed.com.Page Title M7 web site
 
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 05:39 PM
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Wow that new grill from M7 looks great! Do you have a before and after pic of it randy? :smile:
 
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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I like it, Sorta reminds me of chain mail. Problem is if it gets nicked up from all the road debris if it is painted so bare metal is a good choice. Something that doesn't rust.

I got an idea. What about doing the same gille treatment on the bonnet grille and the upper bumper grille? Just needs some sort of trim piece. Maybe would let more air through as well which is a functional advantage. Change the bonnet scoop and make it larger with the same grille material to match. Maybe make it power coated black or to color of choice. Fashionable and functional!

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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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It looks like those ricey honda grille kits that shows everything behind them.

just my 2 cents
 
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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Here is a before and after as requested. There is something for everyone when building up a Mini to be YOURS. I went thru the same thing with my 1966 S many years ago. Everyone is entitled to a opinion and I respect everyone's rite to express theirs with either words or with the way they build up their own car. Always keep in mind tho that YOUR opinion should matter most with YOUR own car and like the kids say " its all good " :smile: Randy





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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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Hi Guys......

Yes the M7 Ultimate grill is the first one made in a series of grills for the MCS/MC .
The first unit is for the MCS black or silver super strong powder coating, no chiping guaranteed.
It will be available at Mini Mania next week.
The company I partnered up with is " The" grill company in the world, the quality is absolutly awesome
and the fit and ease of instalation is first class. I hope you like it.......

And as always please call me with any questions :smile:

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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 09:53 PM
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I LOVE that grille! PLEase please pleaaSE make it in stainless?????

I want upper AND lower! Now i won't have to make my own!

BTW: M7speed.com...My mac running IE won't load your webpage. "Not enough memory for shockwave plug-in (that's BS. I do.)
 
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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That looks great!!!

You say that this is also available for the MC. Will this fit the stock front apron or is it for the Aero kit only? Also how much would such a thing cost? Cuz im gonna get one

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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 11:29 PM
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Hey......

I will make it available for the MC.... asap.
Stainless will not happen but we will have a yummy silver powder coat available next week.
And to get your own M7 Ultimate grill call Mini Mania they should have them in stock by mid next week.
The unit fits the stock and aero kit.

Price: about $ 140.00


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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 01:37 AM
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>>Hey......
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>>I will make it available for the MC.... asap.
>>Stainless will not happen but we will have a yummy silver powder coat available next week.
>>And to get your own M7 Ultimate grill call Mini Mania they should have them in stock by mid next week.
>>The unit fits the stock and aero kit.
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>>Price: about $ 140.00
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>>peter horvath
>>562-712-3270

This is great news!! I've wanted an option besides the black aero, the chrome, or the painted grill for an S for a long time now, but the coolest looking ones always show up w/ body kits which aren't available in the US. PLEASE post pics of these grills as soon as possible. I am definitely a potential customer.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 05:50 AM
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>>I will make it available for the MC.... asap.
>>Stainless will not happen but we will have a yummy silver powder coat available next week.



Hello Peter

What is the DTA for the MINI Cooper grill as you said it will be available for MC...asap. Also are the going to be about the same price at $140.00?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 06:40 AM
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>>This one is open completely across the entire lower opening which if you look at the stock one was not the case by a long shot. This will certainly offer more cooling air for the engine compartment .

This is detrimental to cooling. The way the stock grill works, if the air wants to go through the lower grill, it has to go through the radiator. When you open it up like that, you're giving the air a path of lesser resistance (ie its easier for the air to just go around the radiator than through it). So yeah you're cooling the engine compartment more but at the expense of your cooling system!


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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 06:44 AM
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very nice.

now that's a very lowered cooper-s!!!
what kind of wheel is that? almost looks
like AMG wheels. very cool.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 06:46 AM
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As cheese said, the stock grille is partially blocked off for a reason. You should think about getting a shroud between the radiator and the bumper opening that will make all of the air go through the radiator. That way, you can get your cooling system back up to the level it was stock (or maybe even better!).
 
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 06:52 AM
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>>what kind of wheel is that?

That is a HAMANN DESIGN HM 4 17"
One-Piece Light Alloy Wheel
Five-Spoke-Design
Silver / Outside Well polished
DIMENSION: 8 J x 17 FA / RA
TYRES: 205/40 ZR 17 FA / RA up to 215/40 ZR 17 FA / RA

Which you can get them at "BAVARIAN"

http://www.bavarianautosport.com/shop.asp


 
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 07:00 AM
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"That is a HAMANN DESIGN HM 4 17"
One-Piece Light Alloy Wheel "

This doesn't sound too light to me:

Hamann HM4's: 24.3lbs

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41956
 
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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Cool grill! I'm planning on getting one.





 
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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>>Price: about $ 140.00


I'm glad to see people enjoying being hosed!

If it fits both the stock and aero, do I just get a piece of uncut mesh instead of something fitted. Because if its uncut, I can spend 1/20 the price at the local home depot and enjoy the same look! BTW, I already did, and you can't tell it from an $140 version.

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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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You raised some interesting points with the chat about the path of the air and after further review :smile: here is my finding/opinion. The grill appears to extend about 2.5 inches to either side of the radiator. There really isn't much of a path for the air to go around the radiator however do to the radiator mount and a rubber/foam seal up both sides of the radiator. From what I can see I would not call this a path of least resistance in any way. Now for the amount of air that MAY be getting by the radiator this is more than compensated for by the greater air flow by virtue of the larger open verses covered space ratio of the new grill. Just look again at the photos and I think you will agree on that point. In any event I really respect your opinions and discussions about these sort of things are part of the fun. In any event this is my opinion and you know what they say about those :smile: Thanks for the input,Randy
 
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 11:07 AM
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Home depot ? Hmmm interesting indeed. I was just there and i couldn't find the powder coated steel isle. Perhaps they were out of their perfectly formed edge and bracket material as well. As a matter of fact I couldn't even find one welder in the building.I tell you what take a picture of your grill like this and then we can see if anyone can tell a difference. Steve Wonder isn't allowed to vote in the is test by the way :smile: Randy



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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 12:28 PM
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thanks, ac-mini!
 
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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Nice radiator, you can install yor m7 plasma booster there for everybody to see.
Rice n cheese.
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