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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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Pivot gauges

I love the guages Alta offers, yet found another pretty cool looking guage,

check this out ...looks like the one guage displays both temp + boost

http://pivotjp.com/product/frame-x2m-c.html
 

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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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This company also offers a throttle control unit. My Porsche came stock w/ one. I never use it, yet it's a cool feature for sure.

 
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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looks really nice, but will it work on the US spec MINI's? i also checked out the pivot website and could not find this particular model... i wonder if it's just for the japanese market.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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don't know much about boost gauges but wouldn't it only going to 15 be a problem? I though overboost goes up to 17ish?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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good point... didn't even bother to pay attention at the scale
 
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sunman
good point... didn't even bother to pay attention at the scale
the weird thing is it's made for a MINI so they could be using some crazy metric scale thing for all I know
 
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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is it just plug and play?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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I'm planning to buy it but the release date has been pushed back to later this month (initially it was end of May).
I live in Japan so that's the best solution for my R56s without drilling anything.
I've seen the other Pivot gauges in action and the movement is pretty nice and smooth.
I have not tried their throttle control/remap but it has gotten a few good reviews over here.

Japanese specs are based on USA ones, thus I do not foresee any problems.
Besides, it's plug and play on the OBDCII port thus it should be compatible with all R56s.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
don't know much about boost gauges but wouldn't it only going to 15 be a problem? I though overboost goes up to 17ish?
the gauge's scale is in metrics ;-)

pressure is in kPa (kilo Pascal), not psi
water temperature is in Celsius, not Fahrenheit

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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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will it be able to read oil pressure/temp as well?
ultimately id want boost, oil pres/temp and water temp. In that order
 
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ghosthound
will it be able to read oil pressure/temp as well?
ultimately id want boost, oil pres/temp and water temp. In that order
Well, this model is specifically programmed for water temp and boost only.
I do not know whether oil pressure data is available through the diagnostic port.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Hey Kurisu,
at some point I may have to ask you to help me w/ ordering some products off this site:
http://www.mini-delta.co.jp/

Everything is in Japanese so it's difficult for me to understand what will work for the R56, yet there are some cool products. I'll have to ask you to help me translate and see if they'll take paypal or how that works.

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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ghosthound
will it be able to read oil pressure/temp as well?
ultimately id want boost, oil pres/temp and water temp. In that order
I don't think oil pressure/temp are available on the OBDII.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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this is the English webpage specifically for MINI:
http://pivotjp.com/product/flame-x3-e.html
 
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by billie_morini
this is the English webpage specifically for MINI:
http://pivotjp.com/product/flame-x3-e.html
This is actually only for the models prior to R55/R56
The only gauge from Pivot that works on the R55/56 is the X2M-C described above.

I should get mine tonight, once I get it installed (hopefully before the week-end) I'll post pictures here.

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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by eR1c
Hey Kurisu,
at some point I may have to ask you to help me w/ ordering some products off this site:
http://www.mini-delta.co.jp/

Everything is in Japanese so it's difficult for me to understand what will work for the R56, yet there are some cool products. I'll have to ask you to help me translate and see if they'll take paypal or how that works.

eric.
I'll check their website in the meantime to see what are their payment terms and shipping policy.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 03:51 AM
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I've seen that gauge few months ago... (excuse me for my poor english...i'm french...nobody's perfect)

What is the process to buy it ?
I send them an E-Mail 3 weeks ago... no answer !

Japonese can't speak english ? Or don't know how to answer with a computer ?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Stivemakouine
I've seen that gauge few months ago... (excuse me for my poor english...i'm french...nobody's perfect)

What is the process to buy it ?
I send them an E-Mail 3 weeks ago... no answer !

Japonese can't speak english ? Or don't know how to answer with a computer ?
The gauge was released / on sale since last Tuesday (23rd June).

The Pivot webstore is not shipping outside Japan, so you have to buy it through another store (so far I have not found it anywhere else though, but if I do I'll certainly let people here know.).

And no, most Japanese people don't speak English actually!
 
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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I've E-mailed an other distributor : www.pivotracing.com
They ship worldwide, but no answer too And they don't talk about the new X2 Multigauge for R56...
I think in this part of the world they don't understand what is the word Business !!!

What can I do to buy it ? Prostitute ?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Funny, I thought I was living and doing business in "that" part of the world...

Why don't you just wait for a while until customers in Japan actually receive their x2m-c ? The thing has been released _this week_ in Japan, for God's sake.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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Pivot X2M-C gauge installed

Just wanted to give a quick update as I received my X2M-C last week and finally found the time to install it last Saturday.

The installation is very straightforward, you have the wire that goes from the back of the gauge to both the OBCDII connector and the fuse box (for power. the wire is hooked up to a 7.5A fuse that replaces the #32).

The pod is a bit flimsy, even though it's screwed in the tachometer with a spacer (they provide it together with a longer screw), it's easy to accidentally push up/down, but that's not a big deal.

Once installed, it looks like this : (sorry, picture taken with my iPhone)
Pivot gauges-img_0040.jpg
The illumination is almost a perfect match.

Now, onto the actual usage.
For the water temperature, it's perfect. You can see the needle gradually rise smoothly until it settles around 10.3~10.5 (which means 103ºC~105ºC). No special comment there.

As for the boost, things are not as perfect as I was imagining. The movement of the needle is smooth, yes, but you can clearly see twitches when you're idling and the gauge indicates around 50kPa of vacuum. The needle never fails to constantly go from 52kPa to 50kPa. It is a bit annoying at first, but of course you quickly forget it.
The needle never overshoots, and is very precise. But the movement lacks the smoothness of an analog device.

For around JPY23,000 on various auction sites (I purchased mine on yahoo! auctions Japan), it has a good "bang for the buck" in my book, as I am happy to finally be able to know when the car has warmed sufficiently for me to drive it the way it was designed for And I didn't need to drill anything, just plug and play.
Others, especially those living in the US who have access to a lot more options in that department, might feel differently about the price, factoring in the shipping costs.

I've confirmed with Pivot that the gauge works on ALL R56s, not only the Japanese model.
 

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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thanks for the write up. I'd definitely get one of these if they were here. I'm kind of lazy when it comes to acutally having to do install work.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 01:25 AM
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I can only see the x3 gauge from pivot. Do you know if this will work also? Otherwise, how would someone in US get one of the X2m-C gauges? I've really interested since the install seems much easier than other gauges and not as pricey as the JCW gauges.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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The X3 only works on R50/R52/R53, NOT R56.
As for getting a X2M-C in the US, I assume it will eventually start showing up in online shops in a few weeks, but so far even in Japan it's not readily available in brick-and-mortar shops.
Patience is of the essence I guess...
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 09:41 PM
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i really wish a company offered the X2M-C or something similar in the US,
 
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