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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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So I believe that I understand the intent of this part, but has any testing been done that shows a real improvement over stock? I can't imagine putting a blade or plasma cutter on my hood until I was absolutely sure the modification did something really good.

Also, I've read this question but haven't seen a valid answer yet: What happens when water gets in? I drive my MINI EVERYWHERE...so it really is a matter of when...
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 06:31 AM
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Water Management

Please refer to postings #19 and #158.
An Al2 divertor, similar to the divertor in #19, will be included to direct the air toward the AES. Water coming thru the front scoop should be atomized, to some extent, and directed with the air out of the hood. I ran my car thru some sereve rain, with a prototype divertor installed, the area (read plug boots) stayed clean, while a friends car showed dirt accumulation on the sparkplug boots. This same divertor will channel rain (or car wash) water away when the car is sitting still.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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Looks Great Peter/JS.
Since I already have the M7 three front grills and DFIC scoop grill, I will probably make a grill insert per your instructions. Will you sell ( or do you
know a source for) the same grill material?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JS
Please refer to postings #19 and #156.
An Al2 divertor, similar to the divertor in #19, will be included to direct the air toward the AES. Water coming thru the front scoop should be atomized, to some extent, and directed with the air out of the hood. I ran my car thru some sereve rain, with a prototype divertor installed, the area (read plug boots) stayed clean, while a friends car showed dirt accumulation on the sparkplug boots. This same divertor will channel rain (or car wash) water away when the car is sitting still.
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I'm confused...I see the picture on post 19, but 156 doesn't talk about anything with the issue of water??

Mind you there is alot of garbage on this thread that has nothing to do with the part, so it's kinda difficult to wade through it all, but I don't think I've found anything )prior to what you wrote) that addresses the issues of potential water damage testing, and performance testing.

I live in a hot area, so I'm interested if this thing could help me get better performace despite the heat.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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i think he might have meant 158.....it's discussed there
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Peter,

When you get the chance can you please post some pictures of the AES from the front or rear showing how well it mates with the hood? I'd also like to see a picture of the final design from the bottom.

Thanks!
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RallyMINI
i think he might have meant 158.....it's discussed there
Thank you.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Here's another Image of the scoop painted and pretty....
I will have more images when time allows and the car is available for more
photos taken.

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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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That is freaking Kool man , I love it painted.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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Most impressive indeed...
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Krassanova
I'm confused...I see the picture on post 19, but 156 doesn't talk about anything with the issue of water??

Mind you there is alot of garbage on this thread that has nothing to do with the part, so it's kinda difficult to wade through it all, but I don't think I've found anything )prior to what you wrote) that addresses the issues of potential water damage testing, and performance testing.

I live in a hot area, so I'm interested if this thing could help me get better performace despite the heat.

Water will be a non issue and wil be easier to understand once you see a shot of the underside. To put it as simply as i can the air coming in thru the front scoop is almost completely sealed until it exits . If you are in a rain storm the wet air will come in ,go thru the DFIC and pass into the exit scoop and out through the top. There is very little opertunity of water to escape. Now when the car is stationary the wate could pool in the bottom of the exit scoop but once you are moving it would be blown out. If it is still a issue a very simple drain hole could be put into it with perhaps a run off hose. The bottom line is that IF water is any kind of problem it wil be easy to remidy. In my case when i wash the car I lift the hood and just place a towel over the engine to soak up any direct water from the hose. Hope this helps a bit.

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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 06:45 AM
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Wow. . . so much better. Looks good.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PhysicsGeek
more fuel to the fire, where is my sawzall?:

No offence but i like this scoop better... i would cut up my hood for something like this
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MiNi_MaC
No offence but i like this scoop better... i would cut up my hood for something like this

Sorry man, that was a one-off that really doesn't work very well. The other issue is ease of production.

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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 05:37 AM
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Peter, do you have a source for a grill piece for the AES that matches what I have with my M7 3 front and DFIC scoop? Just something big enough.
I will do the fabrication.
Thanks.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 05:44 AM
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Peter, do you have a source for a grill piece for the AES that matches what I have with my M7 3 front and DFIC scoop? Just something big enough.
I will do the fabrication.
Thanks.

Just contact the manufacturer....they sell 'universal' kits which is just the wire and you could cut it to your needs

http://www.grillcraft.com/
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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Thanks much RallyMini. I'll do that.

M7 , do you have size measurements so I buy a big enough chunk from GrillCraft?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by M7
Almost impossible to make in fiberglass, so we decided against it early on.
Remember we are not expecting to sell a whole hell of lot of these so keeping production cost in check was certainly high on my list.

Some people has insinuated that we needed to add this scoop or some of the other options to make the DFIC work properly.....All I can say is poppycock!!
We are adding these products to make the DFIC all it can be and more showing that we are always thinking, never leaving enough alone and with that having a blast doing it......

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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by trackertracker
Thanks much RallyMini. I'll do that.

M7 , do you have size measurements so I buy a big enough chunk from GrillCraft?
i would think that a piece 6 by 24 inches would be more than ample. Grillcraft should be able to take care of you.

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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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Randy, would it be possible to build a lip or something that a grille can be put into the AES? I am assuming that the grille would not just sit in there via a compression fit or something similiar.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 07:39 AM
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Let's hear what Randy has to say but I would think that a substantial bead
of epoxy on both sides of the grill would hold it in.

Randy, thanks for the grill size info.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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I just ordered a 12x44 piece of "Mini Grill" from GrillCraft. I might just substitute the leftovers for the plastic stock stuff in the rear bumper.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Here's the promissed picture of the scoop with a grille insert....
I also added an image of the scoop from under the hood.

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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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We likey
 
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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We likey
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