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Nice sets of pictures, neat stuff.

When my R56 gets another 2 years older, maybe I will look into RallyX in this area.

Keep posting stats and pictures, it will be interesting to see if any other MINI owners give it a go.

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Originally Posted by old81
Nice sets of pictures, neat stuff.

When my R56 gets another 2 years older, maybe I will look into RallyX in this area.

Keep posting stats and pictures, it will be interesting to see if any other MINI owners give it a go.

Don
Other cars at the event-


In Rallycross there are three classes for FWD.

Stock, Prepared, and Modified.

You are modded so you can't do stock class.
Prepared allows for suspension and some mods and various wheels and tire sizes but no changes to boost.
You have increased boost so very likely you would be Modified class which allows extensive weight lightening.

Keep the stock suspension if you can and consider some rally wheels in something that will fit over your brake calipers but still give lots of grip in loose stuff, dirt or gravel.

Here are some tires I'd like to use- (Hankook Rally tires for loose gravel)


In this shot you can see my winterforce front tires

I'll move these to the rears and put the knobby tires on the fronts. 15x6 rims
 
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Here are some tires I'd like to use- (Hankook Rally tires for loose gravel)


I can see how all those little spikes would really improve your dirt grip!
 
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Originally Posted by MotorMouth
I can see how all those little spikes would really improve your dirt grip!
Those spikes will only tickle the ants.


Hankook Gravel Rally tires R201 comes in various compounds
G3 - Hard & Rough Gravel, Over 85º F
G5 - Medium Hard Gravel, 60ºF-95ºF
G7 - Soft & Loose Gravel, Under 70ºF ( This may be too soft a rubber and is easily cut or damaged by rough terrain)

Sizes very limited
185/60-15
195/65-15

They offer a bit more aggressive tread for mud and loose gravel and rocks

Some additional choices for Rally tires (UK source)


Silverstone S525M Mud Rally Tire, About $150 each, Directional tread
Features an open block type tread pattern which makes it ideally suited for muddy conditions in rallying or rallycross.
Size
15/60-15 fits 15x 5.5" perfectly but rims 5-6.5" wide are OK. Tire diameter is 605mm or just under 24".

Or


Silverstone S525 Rally tires, Directional and Asymmetric tread pattern
Size 15/62-15 fits 15x 5.5" perfectly but rims 5-6.5" wide are OK. 620mm tire diameter slightly taller than stock but OK. About $150 each
 

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Some other tire choices.

Prices vary.

http://teamtac.org/e107/e107_files/p...ally_tires.pdf

Some only come in certain wheel sizes. 15" wheels seem about right for the MINI if it can clear the front brakes.
 
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Next event is this saturday

Come at watch or bring your Rally car and drive.

http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.c...6789B1C06E595D

The competition-


 

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Close race this week

Event 3

Prepared AWD
1. Subaru WRX Sti 5:47.58 First overall out of 10 total drivers
( Best single run 1:04.44)
2. Subaru WRX 6:04.76 Second overall, second in class
( Best single run 1:03.06)

Modified FWD
1. MINI cooper S 6:07.37 Third overall, 1st in class
( Best single run 1:07.44)

Prepared FWD
1. Toyota FX16 6:22.41 Fourth overall, 1st in class
( Best single run 1:09.25)

Modified AWD
1. Subaru Impreza RS 6:26.27 Fifth overall, 1st in class
( Best single run 1:11.29)

Stock FWD
1. Honda Civic 6:43.79 10th overall, 1st in class
( Best single run 1:08.38)

The top two Subarus are running Hankook Rally tires so they are way ahead of the rest of us but I try to keep pressure on them using just two front snow tires.
 
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imagine if the big rain had started one day earlier....
 
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Originally Posted by MotorMouth
imagine if the big rain had started one day earlier....
I thought we did really good for that event, no real weather problem all day long from 8 to 4pm. A little cloudy with some sun.

Tons of rain after but it was the next day.

Kapolei area is dry in general.

KRP is the most leeward area and the last to get rain.

We had a handful of spectators but mostly just friends of the drivers.

I think we are learning how to run the event pretty well and the few experienced SCCA people we have are making things happen,

We are hoping that some of the new drivers will come back for more and bring more drivers. We have a few repeats besides the core SCCA autocross bunch.
 
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Next event Jan 22 is post poned to next month. It's too close to the regular autocross date of Jan 23

If we don't hit our minimum of 25 drivers we might have to cancel an event.

Stay tuned. I'm signing up whenever I can.
 

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Some pictures from the last event-


Hard Charging fearless Toyota FX16


Stock FWD Civic with summer tires


Stock AWD Suzuki SX4 improving each run/event



Close to monster truck - driver still getting used to driving it


Running Snow tires up front on 15x6 rims

kicking up some dirt

Got my GoPro HD camera out for the first time.
 
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Wait? Where on Oahu is this? This is slightly cooler than the SCCA Auto X at the Stadium!!
 
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Originally Posted by Torri91
Wait? Where on Oahu is this? This is slightly cooler than the SCCA Auto X at the Stadium!!
KRP

http://www.kalaeloaracewaypark.com/

Cooler if you have all wheel drive and Rally tires.
 
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The new MINI Countryman are arriving this month

just think you can take that Rallycrossing like this-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3STaj...embedded#at=33
 
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wow.. That looks wicked fun - and scary.


The exhaust doesn't sound stock
 
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Originally Posted by MotorMouth
wow.. That looks wicked fun - and scary.


The exhaust doesn't sound stock
What? I don't think they are limited to stock exhaust.

Probably any cat back exhaust which likely is a straight pipe if they could do it.

No Rallycross for January, next date is Feb 2011
 
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Next event is this coming Saturday Feb 19

Come by if you can at KRP.

If you feel like driving you can just show up in the morning.
 
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Event 4 Feb 19 was good.

22 drivers

I came in 3rd on raw time overall and first in class.

http://www.sccahawaii.org/2010result...219_rallyx.pdf

Had a good morning and was in 2nd overall but could not find any traction in the mud for the afternoon even with Rallytires on the fronts.
 
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Next event is March 19 at KRP.
 
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Pretty good day.

Some rain but mostly cloudy

Results
http://www.sccahawaii.org/2010result...319_rallyx.pdf

Big competition in Prepared AWD and Modified AWD

Since most have Rally tires now it's pretty tough to keep up if the course is more open.

Just have to be consistent and reduce errors.

Got 5th out of 18 on raw time. All of the other top 11 drivers had AWD

Had some of the better autocross drivers present driving Subarus.

Also had a Celica AllTrac with rally tires driven by three drivers that did well.
 
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Hey minihune, just to let you know people are reading your updates even if we don't always comment on them!
 
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I have two threads on Rallycross going.

One in general Racing with basics on how to get started and what to expect.

And this one on how we are getting along in Hawaii.

I had a chance to talk to some of the other Rally drivers and the Toyota Celica Alltrac which was new at the last event is a great Rallycar. It's a backup car so people can sign up and drive it with permission from Davin K. It's got rally tires so it can be top 5 overall.

All the drivers for the Alltrac were new- first time out but still came in 6th 8th and 10th out of 18 on raw times. And 3rd, 5th and 6th out of 7 in class that included the top two drivers from the last events.

Also I looked at my videos of the event and saw many slow corners that I could have done much better on. Lots to keep working on for driving in the loose dirt or mud.

Cory and Ed in the MA class Subaru will not have the knobby tires for next event. They are sold to Mike in PA class and he traded his normal rallytires to Cory to get the better tires.

Update on tires is- all snowtires and all rallytires get chewed up worse than the R compound tires do at autocross. The ground is full of rocks and the runs are longer at about 70 to 80 seconds. The treads are full of damage. All season tires do OK.
 
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Another rallycross at KRP in two weeks.

Bring your MINI.
 
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Next Rally cross on Dec 17 saturday at KRP all day

Bring your All wheel drive MINI Countryman if you have one
 


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