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Old Aug 3, 2013 | 02:06 PM
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Only my 3rd post here but here are a few pics that I posted in 1st gear as well. Still going through the break in period but the car is still a blast even under 4500 rpm!





Super Sports for daily driving. Replaced the V700s that will be mounted to a different set of wheels.




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Old Aug 4, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Any rubbing with the suspension lowered to the max with the Michelin Pilot SS? I have the V700s on now and there great. The only issue being they wear
quickly and kumho might be phasing them out. The pros being they are a pretty cheap tire to repurchase and have amazing grip. I live in Arizona so I never worry about being caught in the rain,etc..

I have SS on my Cayman R, and coming down out of the clouds are probably the best choice for the GP, but the Kumhos really impress me.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2013 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kk moto
Any rubbing with the suspension lowered to the max with the Michelin Pilot SS? I have the V700s on now and there great. The only issue being they wear
quickly and kumho might be phasing them out. The pros being they are a pretty cheap tire to repurchase and have amazing grip. I live in Arizona so I never worry about being caught in the rain,etc..

I have SS on my Cayman R, and coming down out of the clouds are probably the best choice for the GP, but the Kumhos really impress me.
If you don't have to worry about different weather and only drive it on warm, sunny days, I'd probably stay on the V700s too. I haven't had any rubbing with the SS. My car is serving daily driver duty and the SS is probably the best tire for that in Indiana. You really can't beat the 30k tread wear warranty! They're also a lot more comfortable without giving up THAT much performance in normal driving.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2013 | 08:01 PM
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I have put some Falken Azenis on NM wheels for summer use, they are 215/40/17's, same as the original Kumho's. Found the Kumho's to be very unstable in wet conditions, but will keep them. Will be looking for all seasons for the winter, live in Indiana as well.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2013 | 08:11 PM
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by glmini
I have put some Falken Azenis on NM wheels for summer use, they are 215/40/17's, same as the original Kumho's. Found the Kumho's to be very unstable in wet conditions, but will keep them. Will be looking for all seasons for the winter, live in Indiana as well.
Yeah, the description of the Kumhos on Tire Rack's website says that full tread depth can be used on a wet Auto-X course but should not be used on the street. I was worried that I'd be caught in rain for the 4 days I had the Kumhos on the car! Not that I couldn't have driven on them but they just can't disperse as much water as a street tire.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 01:18 PM
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Yeah, the description of the Kumhos on Tire Rack's website says that full tread depth can be used on a wet Auto-X course but should not be used on the street. I was worried that I'd be caught in rain for the 4 days I had the Kumhos on the car! Not that I couldn't have driven on them but they just can't disperse as much water as a street tire.[/QUOTE]

Just to bring this conversation back to reality, the tirerack site says that full tread depth should be used when on a wet track... nothing about full tread not being used on the street, quite the contrary actually. Lets not make things up!

Also, my Kumhos have almost reached 10k of hard wear. Yes, they likely won't be good for 20k, but rumors that they wear in 2thousand miles are just not true. In addition, we are finishing up a very rainy season in New England. The tire are quite good in rain/wet conditions. The warning is for standing water... big difference.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jrs66

Just to bring this conversation back to reality, the tirerack site says that full tread depth should be used when on a wet track... nothing about full tread not being used on the street, quite the contrary actually. Lets not make things up!

Also, my Kumhos have almost reached 10k of hard wear. Yes, they likely won't be good for 20k, but rumors that they wear in 2thousand miles are just not true. In addition, we are finishing up a very rainy season in New England. The tire are quite good in rain/wet conditions. The warning is for standing water... big difference.
I'm not trying to start an internet argument but this is from Tirerack.com on the V700, which is why I had that idea of how they should be used:

"The Ecsta V700 (V70A) is Kumho’s Racetrack & Autocross Only radial developed in Europe and imported to the United States. The V700 is attractively priced and designed to be a racing value by delivering great traction and treadwear per dollar.

While Ecsta V700 radials meet DOT requirements, they are not appropriate for highway use. Shaved or worn Ecsta V700 radials are not recommended for driving in wet conditions where standing water is present and there is the risk of hydroplaning; drivers should drive cautiously at reduced speeds if they encounter these conditions. And like all Racetrack & Autocross Only tires, Ecsta V700 radials are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice. It’s also essential these tires be stored indoors at temperatures maintained above 32 degrees F...The Ecsta V700 should only be used at full tread depth (6/32") for wet track and wet autocross use."
 

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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by G_Rock
I'm not trying to start an internet argument but this is from Tirerack.com on the V700, which is why I had that idea of how they should be used:

"The Ecsta V700 (V70A) is Kumho’s Racetrack & Autocross Only radial developed in Europe and imported to the United States. The V700 is attractively priced and designed to be a racing value by delivering great traction and treadwear per dollar.

While Ecsta V700 radials meet DOT requirements, they are not appropriate for highway use. Shaved or worn Ecsta V700 radials are not recommended for driving in wet conditions where standing water is present and there is the risk of hydroplaning; drivers should drive cautiously at reduced speeds if they encounter these conditions. And like all Racetrack & Autocross Only tires, Ecsta V700 radials are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice. It’s also essential these tires be stored indoors at temperatures maintained above 32 degrees F...The Ecsta V700 should only be used at full tread depth (6/32") for wet track and wet autocross use."
I read that last part as saying 'If youre on a wet track, please have all your tread!' Never do they infer that there tires shouldn't be used on a wet street.

The waiver signed with Mini says they are not safe in the cold (little scary) and they are not safe in standing water. I'd be pretty surprised the this highway can be true. If they make you sign a waiver anyway, wouldn't they clue you into that minor detail? I'll have to ask...

But anyway... All I know is what I've experienced-

- They are great on the highway.
- They handle pretty darn well on wet, not standing, pavement.
- They handle better thn I've ever experienced on dry.
- They've lasted 9,400 miles of some pretty spirited driving and still have some tread
- They were free anyway (picking up, and selling, the replacement runflats this weekend)

Sorry for being pissy, but these tires get hammered on this board quite a bit... I have to wonder what that's about... They are pretty damn solid summer sport tires.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 09:57 AM
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I had the Kumho's on while driving back from the Dragon in May and was on the interstate in the rain and hydroplanned at least four different times and was keeping my speed between 60 and 65 mile per hour, that was not my idea of fun. Granted they were great on the Dragon in the dry, but were definetly not good in the rain on the interstate, even at reduced speeds.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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G Rock, look like you are in my neigborhood, will have to get together. I am active in the local MINI Car Club of Indiana, you should get by one of our events some time. I have GP 0103.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jrs66
I read that last part as saying 'If youre on a wet track, please have all your tread!' Never do they infer that there tires shouldn't be used on a wet street.

The waiver signed with Mini says they are not safe in the cold (little scary) and they are not safe in standing water. I'd be pretty surprised the this highway can be true. If they make you sign a waiver anyway, wouldn't they clue you into that minor detail? I'll have to ask...

But anyway... All I know is what I've experienced-

- They are great on the highway.
- They handle pretty darn well on wet, not standing, pavement.
- They handle better thn I've ever experienced on dry.
- They've lasted 9,400 miles of some pretty spirited driving and still have some tread
- They were free anyway (picking up, and selling, the replacement runflats this weekend)

Sorry for being pissy, but these tires get hammered on this board quite a bit... I have to wonder what that's about... They are pretty damn solid summer sport tires.
I can't argue with the dry grip at all! Stickiest tires I've ever been on. They are definitely going on a set of wheels for Auto-X days.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by glmini
G Rock, look like you are in my neigborhood, will have to get together. I am active in the local MINI Car Club of Indiana, you should get by one of our events some time. I have GP 0103.
Definitely! I haven't joined yet but I plan to.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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Hello from GP 0205, Louisville, Ky
 
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Old Aug 21, 2013 | 05:28 AM
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Hello from GP 0205, Louisville, Ky
Did you get it at Dreyer and Reinbold in Indianapolis??
 
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Old Aug 23, 2013 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by G_Rock
Did you get it at Dreyer and Reinbold in Indianapolis??
No at the local mini dealer.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2013 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by KAMarks
No at the local mini dealer.
I think they may have gotten it from the Indy dealer. It was sitting next to mine when I bought it. Congrats on the purchase!
 
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