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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 10:14 PM
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this thread is entertaining


I'd be frustrated as hell to get a ticket for 1 mph over the speed limite but the first person to reply to this post has stated the verdict in one word . . . MAXIMUM

A speed limit is a limit. It needs to be set to a number. It does't matter all that much how much over. When you're over, you're over, and thus you made an offense. End of story.

The idea that there is this sense of entitlement because it is just one small mph is absurd and misplaced.

My vote is: pay the fine and move on to better things. A little humility in life goes a long way to being a good person...
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 05:47 AM
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To fight or pay.......

I'm not much of a fighter and I just normally pay tickets of which I have had very few.

I did get one before Christmas. Expired tag. Long story but the state her did not send me tag renewals for all three of my cars which come due at different times. Ticket was only $45.

I was exhausted as I did have to fight to get my tag for the S Coupe. Had to go through dealer and they screwed up. Ended up with extensive phone conversations with the State District Attorney's Office, local police and Department of Revenue and the Governor's Office.

This was very complicated because I had already paid via the dealer the ad velorem of which was thousands of dollars. Even walking into the Tag office with thousands of dollars would not have helped. The information had to go from the dealer to a third party to the Tag office only.

While all of this was going on I had to move my Dad to a nursing home from my home. Just after helping my Mom die of ALS and selling their home. I have fought over a year with his finances of which my father wants me to take control but Merrill Lynch does not recognize power of attorney and even getting is long term care policy to pay has been difficult.

Seems my life is anything but simple. If I get a ticket I just pay them. I wonder how many people remember their tag renewals? It is only once a year. Thankfully, I get my bills in the mail. Water bill, Electric Bill, others at all different times of the month. Not sure I would notice if say one bill was late as in the Water Bill is due to me by the 16th of the month.

Guess I would need to be the extreme OCD for that to work. I screwed up and I paid the ticket. Marked the dates on a calendar so I could take a sick day at work to go to the Tag office in the future because they are unable or unreliable to get the renewals to me.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 06:43 AM
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This thread has grown a life of it's own.. Another thought. Many years ago I got a ticket for 'failure to yield from a private drive'. I thought it was a pretty bogus ticket, as I was pulling out of a parking lot to make a right turn. There was no traffic coming my way, so I just make the right and kept going. A police office was going the other way, turned around and stopped me. At the time I had no idea why I was pulled over. The officer stated that I was required to stop first before entering the street. News to me. So I plead not guilty, a trial date was set. I showed up to the trial and was approached by the prosecutor to cut a deal (they didn't want to spend time with a trial). They offered no fine, just points on my license. I countered with pay the fine, no points on my license. They declined my deal, but I ended up with no fine. Anyways, at least I was a few hundred dollars ahead. If they offer it, go to defensive driving school..
Yield does not mean stop, and with no stop sign I would not stop either.

** Update **

I just asked a PD Sgt. about "failure to yield from a private drive". He stated you must stop regardless even if it's from your own driveway or a parking lot of any kind.
 

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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 06:48 AM
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what is the address of where you were...relative area. I will tell you if there is a school or not.
Last weekend I recieved two speeding tickets....I paid them.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by chappybmode
what is the address of where you were...relative area. I will tell you if there is a school or not.
Last weekend I recieved two speeding tickets....I paid them.
If you're post was meant for the OP please see post #67.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 07:00 AM
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ah my bad
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 07:34 AM
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There is a lot of good information about fighting a ticket on the National Motorists Association site.

http://www.motorists.org/

I think all motoring enthusiasts should be members of the NMA, it's a great resource.

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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 10:09 AM
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A good lawyer will get it dismissed, don't loose sleep over it, same thing happened on Sunday to a friend with a RED MInI. First was a big Ford pick up in front of us, doing at least 75/80 we were following him he slams the brakes when he sees the trooper my friend switches lanes to avoid getting closer to the truck or perhaps hitting him I kept going check my speed after I slowed down pass the trooper at 71 and the RED cooper gets pull over, trooper says that he was doing 80 let him off with a warning.

He didn't stop the big *** truck but the Red Mini. In MINI runs almost everybody speeds at one point

The OP goes 1 mile over the limit and gets the AX c'mon
Invest in a escort 9500 ix radar/laser detector. It would have told you that you were approaching a school zone with a speed camera. I speed and I never get tickets… It's a good, maybe the best mod!
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by devicemanager
Yield does not mean stop, and with no stop sign I would not stop either.
Yep, that's why I plead not guilty. Prior to going to the trial I looked it up, and sure enough, it was on the books. I knew I was going to lose, so I accepted the plea deal.

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** Update **

I just asked a PD Sgt. about "failure to yield from a private drive". He stated you must stop regardless even if it's from your own driveway or a parking lot of any kind.
Getting back on topic, the OP needs to get into damage control. Hiring an attorney is probably a waste of time and money. As I suggested in a previous post, he should see if his state offers defensive driving school and if he qualifies. In AZ you can get the citation dismissed. I did just that a couple of years ago.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by AZdsrt
Yep, that's why I plead not guilty. Prior to going to the trial I looked it up, and sure enough, it was on the books. I knew I was going to lose, so I accepted the plea deal.



Getting back on topic, the OP needs to get into damage control. Hiring an attorney is probably a waste of time and money. As I suggested in a previous post, he should see if his state offers defensive driving school and if he qualifies. In AZ you can get the citation dismissed. I did just that a couple of years ago.
In Seattle, speeding through school zones is dealt with harshly.The fine is tripled.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 11:14 AM
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First offense in Texas usually results in the ticket dismissed if the person takes defensive driving. Still going to cost you money, but at least you will avoid points.

Good luck!
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RAYGUNZAP
Invest in a escort 9500 ix radar/laser detector. It would have told you that you were approaching a school zone with a speed camera. I speed and I never get tickets… It's a good, maybe the best mod!
My Garmin does the same thing.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 11:38 AM
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Retired Deputy Sheriff here from California. I can only speak for California law, where the lights DO NOT have to be flashing. They are just to alert you here, and have no other force of law. In CA, a school zone can be designated by time, or by children being present.

Before deciding your course of action, you should look up the complete code section you were cited for, and break it down into the basic elements and requirements. Compare those elements with your actions and base your decision on that.

School zones are high risk traffic areas and judges tend to show little leniency toward people who speed in them. Kids do unpredictable things, and speed gives you less reaction time.

Please, slow down and drive carefully. Check out traffic school if you can. It generally helps with insurance, which will cost you more in the long run than the fine.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TG.
this thread is entertaining


I'd be frustrated as hell to get a ticket for 1 mph over the speed limite but the first person to reply to this post has stated the verdict in one word . . . MAXIMUM

A speed limit is a limit. It needs to be set to a number. It does't matter all that much how much over. When you're over, you're over, and thus you made an offense. End of story.

The idea that there is this sense of entitlement because it is just one small mph is absurd and misplaced.

My vote is: pay the fine and move on to better things. A little humility in life goes a long way to being a good person...
You need to read several posts further down where the OP finally admits to being cited for 21 mph over the school zone speed limit of 20 mph. The OP was deliberately misleading in his/her original story. A few posts later he/she lets the truth slip out that the citation is for speeding in a 20 mph school zone.

Does anyone really think the OP would get a $250+ dollar fine for 41 in a 40 mph zone?

The OP has a somewhat loose association with the truth, and a tight grip on immaturity. I especially like the part where the OP called his/her mother with a masters degree. Just WTF was that supposed to prove?

The OP needs to STFU and pay the ticket. I predict nothing but bad things if he/she decides to go to court with the story posted here.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 02:23 PM
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Good points....

Some very good points.

I looked at the place I cross or pass through on the way to the grocery store today.

It stated 30 miles per hour when lights are flashing - period. No time frame just when lights are flashing.

My instinct would be that others are different - here. Just have to read as maybe it depends on location, how far back the school is located and other variables.

In other words, per the posted sign, the lights have to be flashing. No time is listed.

Thank God I have a Dash Cam. Record everything and Trust No One. Facts, facts, facts. Document, document and document. Gather all the evidence you can and then some.

Try the free Car Cam Apps in iTunes. Place phone on windshield or passenger visor and start recording your drives. Use rubber bands or hair bands to secure phone or iTouch. Protect yourself. Otherwise, it comes down to your word against the other guys. Or the police. Record it all. Facts, facts, facts.

Crazy? Not when I walk out of court on the winning side. And you should take this approach to other aspects of your life especially at work. You know it would reduce sexual harassment and other problems to zero.

If you are innocent very hard to refute the recorded truth. Sad we have to go to such extremes. But I will never be burned again. And it is legal as long as you are a party to it.

I have never had so much satisfaction than playing a tape while someone lies and watches. You can't cover the truth. And redeem so much credibility at the same time.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by trwxxa
You need to read several posts further down where the OP finally admits to being cited for 21 mph over the school zone speed limit of 20 mph. The OP was deliberately misleading in his/her original story. A few posts later he/she lets the truth slip out that the citation is for speeding in a 20 mph school zone. Does anyone really think the OP would get a $250+ dollar fine for 41 in a 40 mph zone? The OP has a somewhat loose association with the truth, and a tight grip on immaturity. I especially like the part where the OP called his/her mother with a masters degree. Just WTF was that supposed to prove? The OP needs to STFU and pay the ticket. I predict nothing but bad things if he/she decides to go to court with the story posted here.
Someone is clearly butthurt and missing my point. You have your opinion and I respect that. I don't wanna argue with you back and forth on the forum as that will not solve anything and definitely a waste of time. Thanks for the input though.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by trwxxa
You need to read several posts further down where the OP finally admits to being cited for 21 mph over the school zone speed limit of 20 mph. The OP was deliberately misleading in his/her original story. A few posts later he/she lets the truth slip out that the citation is for speeding in a 20 mph school zone. Does anyone really think the OP would get a $250+ dollar fine for 41 in a 40 mph zone? The OP has a somewhat loose association with the truth, and a tight grip on immaturity. I especially like the part where the OP called his/her mother with a masters degree. Just WTF was that supposed to prove? The OP needs to STFU and pay the ticket. I predict nothing but bad things if he/she decides to go to court with the story posted here.
You obviously need to relax. You're just attacking the OP. I think everyone pretty much agrees either take the ticket, get a plea deal, or fight it with proof.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by trwxxa
You need to read several posts further down where the OP finally admits to being cited for 21 mph over the school zone speed limit of 20 mph. The OP was deliberately misleading in his/her original story. A few posts later he/she lets the truth slip out that the citation is for speeding in a 20 mph school zone. Does anyone really think the OP would get a $250+ dollar fine for 41 in a 40 mph zone? The OP has a somewhat loose association with the truth, and a tight grip on immaturity. I especially like the part where the OP called his/her mother with a masters degree. Just WTF was that supposed to prove? The OP needs to STFU and pay the ticket. I predict nothing but bad things if he/she decides to go to court with the story posted here.
Wow dude calm down, he wasn't asking for your forgiveness , I didn't see it as misleading at all.

He didn't post here to ask for anything the way I see it. Take a chillpill
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 04:11 PM
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It's no skin off my@ss, but the OP clearly lied about the circumstances behind the citation, and then came here looking for sympathy. Take responsibility for your actions, Raffy, and pay the fine.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 04:16 PM
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First of all I was not looking for sympathy (please read my previous posts) because sympathy won't solve my ticket or anything, I know what I did and I know what I think of it. I was just here to share my experience, I believe I stated that on previous posts and some other people as well. Secondly your initial post shows anger on your part... Again I respect your opinion and here is mine. Thank for the input...
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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Don't waste your hard earned money on a lawyer. Pay the ticket, and roll on. Be grateful that didn't slap you with a reckless citation
… You were double the posted speed limit. Tough nabisco!
 

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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 08:08 AM
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@trwxxa
First of all I was not looking for sympathy (please read my previous posts) because sympathy won't solve my ticket or anything, I know what I did and I know what I think of it. I was just here to share my experience, I believe I stated that on previous posts and some other people as well. Secondly your initial post shows anger on your part... Again I respect your opinion and here is mine. Thank for the input...
Here's my initial post:
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Looks like a school zone to me. You are probably going to eat this one.

Does it matter if the lights were flashing? School zones in my area have hours of operation (7am to 4:30pm). It does not matter if the lights on the signs are flashing or not.

A word of advice...

I wouldn't go walking into court with the "I didn't notice the school zone." defense. It will carry exactly ZERO weight with a judge. The school zone IS there whether you notice it or not, whether you see a school or not. Then the state will have a field day ripping the rest of your defense apart -- "If you didn't notice a marked school zone you have been driving through for the last seven months, then how is the court to believe that you noticed the warning lights weren't flashing on the one day in question?"

Hell... You even admitted to speeding in your original post, despite trying to mislead us that you were only exceeding the speed limit by 1 mph. It was only later that you revealed that you were actually cited for 21 over the posted limit. You should not go into a courtroom with the "relaxed sense of the facts" that you possess.
"Anger"? There's not an exclaimation point in the bunch. Your perception skills are about as sharp as your driving situational awareness.

Of course you wanted sympathy. What did you want? Free legal advice? I haven't seen an "I got a ticket today!" thread on any car forum I belong to where the OP wasn't feeding off of every jack@ss who responds with his tale of woe at the hands of power-hungry traffic cops who polish their jackboots on the skulls of innocent motorists.

You can't accept responsibility for your actions, and you are looking for any kind of support -- so much so that you even "guilded the lily" on the circumstances of your citation. The advice you want is how to get out of suffering the consequences of your actions, because you really don't believe you were in the wrong. People who accept personal responsibility don't go looking for ways to weasel out of the repercussions.

If you want legal advice, I can think of none better than the words of the great legal scholar, Jim Carrey, who said,



"STOP BREAKING THE LAW, A**HOLE!"

And to those who think I am being to hard on the OP...

Raffy888 LIED in his original post. He was not doing 1 mph over the speed limit as he said in post #1, but 21 mph over. I merely pointed out the deception. If you think I am being "too judgemental"... Tough t¡tties! I go along with the notable contemporary philosopher, Adam Carolla, who says, "What this country needs is MORE judging, and MORE shaming."
 

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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 08:13 AM
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I came in late on this one.

Lol just because you drive a road in a particular way 5 days a week and now you're caught today doesn't mean what you were doing was okay. Whether it's a properly place school zone or not, it's not the cop's fault that's placed there...he knew he'd be in for some young adults rippin up and down the road to/from class. Blame the town/city if its improperly zoned, the police are just doing their job.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 08:35 AM
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LMAO the hate is real guys. This is my last post towards you as I can't deal with this anymore. Anyway you have your opinion and I respect that. Thanks for the helpful advice though!
 
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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 09:26 AM
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LMAO the hate is real guys. This is my last post towards you as I can't deal with this anymore. Anyway you have your opinion and I respect that. Thanks for the helpful advice though!
+1 I agree shut it down otherwise someone will have a heart attack.

Raffy good luck with the ticket and in the future just just be mindful of what you post, many people come here to help or get help and advice, too bad that some are here just to add negativity. Makes you think twice before posting anything. Good luck
 
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