General MINI Talk Shared experiences, motoring minutes, and other general MINI-related discussion that applies to all MINIs, regardless of model, year or trim.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Oil Filter Difficulty?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 01-26-2014, 10:37 AM
Ballsy's Avatar
Ballsy
Ballsy is offline
2nd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 146
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Oil Filter Difficulty?

So after we finished a quick oil change, we went to go change the oil filter. The canister that houses the filter would not budge! Not in the slightest would it move! We had a 35 or 36 mm wrench (can't remember which) and the thing wouldn't move, even when hitting the wrench with a hammer repeatedly. We didn't have a large enough socket to use though, but how should we get this sucker off? Thanks!
 
  #2  
Old 01-26-2014, 10:45 AM
Rich.Wolfson's Avatar
Rich.Wolfson
Rich.Wolfson is offline
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Northern New Jersey
Posts: 1,266
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by Ballsy
So after we finished a quick oil change, we went to go change the oil filter. The canister that houses the filter would not budge! Not in the slightest would it move! We had a 35 or 36 mm wrench (can't remember which) and the thing wouldn't move, even when hitting the wrench with a hammer repeatedly. We didn't have a large enough socket to use though, but how should we get this sucker off? Thanks!
Don’t hit it. Nothing good will come of that.

Get a 36mm socket and a long flex head ratchet. Apply even pressure and if necessary use an extension bar. It will come off.

And be sure you are turning it in the correct direction!

Not to blame the person who put it on but when you put it back, it is the o-ring that does the sealing, not the pressure of screwing it back. So, not too tight is the operative word on that. There is a torque spec, but again, not too tight will work.

///Rich
 
  #3  
Old 01-26-2014, 11:04 AM
bjcarter2's Avatar
bjcarter2
bjcarter2 is offline
4th Gear
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Palmer, AK
Posts: 474
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I just ordered one of these...

Lisle 14500 Oil Filter Socket : Amazon.com : Automotive Lisle 14500 Oil Filter Socket : Amazon.com : Automotive


You may find one at your local auto parts store. It is usually advertised as a Ford diesel oil filter wrench but many report it as working very well for the Mini Filter Cap. Either way, it is a low profile 36mm socket.

The torque for the cap and drain plug is a mere 18 ft/lbs. Tight is tight, too tight is broke.
 
  #4  
Old 01-26-2014, 01:58 PM
zrickety's Avatar
zrickety
zrickety is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 553
Received 26 Likes on 23 Posts
Something like a 1-1/16" socket works too. It's worth buying a socket at Sears or wherever.
 
  #5  
Old 01-27-2014, 06:23 AM
cristo's Avatar
cristo
cristo is online now
Alliance Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: York, Pennsylvania
Posts: 4,064
Received 203 Likes on 167 Posts
1-1/16 in = 26.9875 mm, almost identical to the gen 2's 27 mm size.
The gen 1 MINIs use a 36 mm socket, however.

Use the correct 1/2" drive socket (either 36 mm for gen 1 vs. 27 or 1 -1/16 for gen 2) and a
long 1/2" drive breaker bar and some oomph and persistence. Warming and/or cooling the
engine and trying again sometimes helps also.
 
  #6  
Old 01-27-2014, 06:31 AM
buzzsaw's Avatar
buzzsaw
buzzsaw is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,835
Received 42 Likes on 32 Posts
Read a while back that a light turn to tighten then loosen the cannister has helped.
 
  #7  
Old 01-27-2014, 07:23 PM
Rich.Wolfson's Avatar
Rich.Wolfson
Rich.Wolfson is offline
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Northern New Jersey
Posts: 1,266
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by buzzsaw
Read a while back that a light turn to tighten then loosen the cannister has helped.
Considering the problem is that the canister bottoms out on the bottom of the base, I would say that is a bad strategy. It could do nothing but stretch the threads.

///Rich
 
  #8  
Old 01-27-2014, 07:58 PM
Ian Landesman's Avatar
Ian Landesman
Ian Landesman is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 512
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
The only time I had trouble doing my oil change was my first. I bought the car used. I've had it serviced at WMW and they torqued it down correctly as I had no difficulty removing it. When I had the timing chain replaced under warranty the dealership changed my oil and I am expecting to need duct tape and a long tool to get the torque needed to remove the sucker. (&$*#*
 
  #9  
Old 01-28-2014, 05:24 AM
zrickety's Avatar
zrickety
zrickety is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 553
Received 26 Likes on 23 Posts
General Mini forum is confusing as the gen1 and 2 are so different.
 
  #10  
Old 01-28-2014, 06:12 AM
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
ECSTuning is offline
Platinum Sponsor
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Wadsworth, Ohio
Posts: 34,937
Received 1,999 Likes on 1,795 Posts
Originally Posted by buzzsaw
Read a while back that a light turn to tighten then loosen the cannister has helped.
Gen 1 stuck oil filter housing cap. Its a 36mm socket.

Think it was here, with some tips:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ng-thread.html

Thanks
 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
  #11  
Old 01-28-2014, 06:26 AM
Helix13mini's Avatar
Helix13mini
Helix13mini is offline
Former Vendor
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Under your car
Posts: 3,159
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 13 Posts
Once you have the correct ratchet and socket in place, really securely on the oil filter housing cap, hit the wratchet handle counter clockwise with the palm of your hand firmly. If that does not work, take a piece of pipe, jack handle or strong metal tubing and slide it over the ratchet handle making an extension for it. Extend it as high as it goes without hitting the open hood. Now do the same and you should succeed. Don't try to pull it with static force, you have to jar it with your open hand. Don't use a hammer. Don't tighten it, just jar it loose.
 
  #12  
Old 02-05-2014, 01:33 AM
babyR00F's Avatar
babyR00F
babyR00F is offline
1st Gear
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: from Lowell, MA lives in Beaufort, SC
Posts: 29
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
get one of those big crescent wrench and full power
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Kimolaoha
R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+)
70
07-05-2023 01:04 PM
devicemanager
MINI Parts for Sale
13
06-17-2016 06:18 PM
Chasp
MINI Parts for Sale
0
08-25-2015 06:44 PM
Chasp
MINI Parts for Sale
4
08-22-2015 01:26 PM
Laura Redd Casler
R52 :: Cabrio Talk (2005-2008)
2
08-15-2015 09:32 PM



Quick Reply: Oil Filter Difficulty?



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:02 AM.