JCW vs. MazdaSpeed3
I know it isn't the same car, it gets an auto instead of the stick and the tune is different but lots of parts swap over and tunes can be nearly identical. The same turbo issues that plagued a MS3, were on our CX-7.
We wanted something a bit smaller and the wife got a MINI after she saw mine.
So you meant similar engine, not car. Saying the MS3 is similar to the CX7 is like saying the Cooper S is similar to the Countryman S, and even though they share a lot of the parts they're really very different cars with the same engine.
Correct, I guess I wasn't explicit to explain how the motors are similar. In no way would I imply the vehicles are the same, heck look at them. I was simply agreeing and relating with the previously mentioned possible shortfalls of the 2.3 turbo in the Mazda.
I have a bit of experience in both cars. I have an 07 MCS and my dad has an 07 MS3 (both SCCA stock class spec.). Both cars are super fun to drive and have their respective ups and downs.
In an autocross I'll take the Mini any day of the week for its low speed agility. I haven't drive the MS3 on the track yet, but my dad has put a few trackdays on it and says that it really comes alive at higher speeds. He had no trouble hanging with Elises, M3's and well suspended Mustangs.
As far as fuel economy, I average about 27mpg in the MS3 and 34mpg in the MCS, so the tradeoff really isn't that bad when you consider the extra space and doors.
In an autocross I'll take the Mini any day of the week for its low speed agility. I haven't drive the MS3 on the track yet, but my dad has put a few trackdays on it and says that it really comes alive at higher speeds. He had no trouble hanging with Elises, M3's and well suspended Mustangs.
As far as fuel economy, I average about 27mpg in the MS3 and 34mpg in the MCS, so the tradeoff really isn't that bad when you consider the extra space and doors.
I don't know where you people live who are getting these kind of mileage numbers. I get 24MPG in my '09 MCS and my buddy get about 19MPG in his MS3. All these people reporting 30+MPG in their MCS baffle me. I drive really conservative. You must live in a super flat area compared to the constant hills I live in...
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Automobile magazine dyno tested the Mazdaspeed 3 in 2009 and put 215 hp and 245 ft-lb to the wheels (tips scale at 3281). They also dyno'd a 2009 VW GTI and it put down 191 hp and 208 lb-ft to the wheels bone stock (rated at 200 at the flywheel from factory).
The CX-7 has a optional 2.3L turbocharged engine, the newer RX-7s are not turbocharged!
I don't know where you people live who are getting these kind of mileage numbers. I get 24MPG in my '09 MCS and my buddy get about 19MPG in his MS3. All these people reporting 30+MPG in their MCS baffle me. I drive really conservative. You must live in a super flat area compared to the constant hills I live in...
My other car is a 2000 Insight with 300K on the clock, so I've got some practice driving for fuel economy.
I'm pretty pleased with the economy of the R56 MCS given the amount of performance it has on tap when I'm feeling frisky.
I'm pretty pleased with the economy of the R56 MCS given the amount of performance it has on tap when I'm feeling frisky.
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