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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 05:10 AM
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Achilles, if you don't mind me asking, about how much did you put into your car?
Also, did changing the antenna improve reception or did was it just for esthetics? How is it compared to the stock antenna?
 
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 05:32 AM
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wait a sec, is an exhaust different from a muffler? I'm not interested in getting more horsepower, I just want a better sound. So, what do I need?
My recommendation is that you attend a local club meet. That will give you an opportunity to listen to some actual options and to discuss pros/cons with the owners in far more detail than what you can find out here.

Once you have some top options identified, then maybe post any questions here to fill in any remaining gaps in information.

Good luck and enjoy the new MINI!!
 
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by new2minicoop
Achilles, if you don't mind me asking, about how much did you put into your car?
Also, did changing the antenna improve reception or did was it just for esthetics? How is it compared to the stock antenna?
hmmm i think i have spent around 3k so far and the antenna is just for esthetics doesnt hurt reception at all
 
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 09:30 AM
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i cant believe im still getting crap for that.. mix up your wires one time and the whole mini community never forgets to bring it up

it was, quite possibly, the greatest mod ever.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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Great gas mileage and fun to drive are my too key points. I can fit me, my gf and both my pitbulls it in and go. Its like I was explaining to a coworker. The reason I love German built cars is due to the soul of the vehicle. I have driven makes and models from most manufacturers but nothing makes me want to just go out and drive like a German built car.
I don't want to disappoint you, but hardtops, convertibles and clubmans are all built in the United Kingdom. Which as you may know is the finest country in the world for car manufacture. We are also proud to produce Jaguars and Range Rovers along with Aston Martins and Morgans. Honda, Toyota and Nissan also have plants here. Most of these brands are foreign owned, but their owners are wise enough to know that British expertise in car manufacture cannot be beaten.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 05:34 PM
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I wanted to say thanks to everyone for your insights. I'm glad to see that so many people are passionate about their minis. I've never been on a car forum before. Are there forums like this for every car out there, like KIA's and Nissan Sentras also?
I must say that over the past week, I have found myself sitting at my desk, looking for reasons to drive somewhere. The car is growing on me. I'm still in the break-in period (380 out of 1200 miles), so I'm not pushing it at all... but I'm really looking forward to when I can open it up a bit.
I've liked the car from the beginning, obviously, that's why I bought it. And for the price, though it's expensive, it's probably the best vehicle in that price range.
After looking over some other forums, I think I should probably personalize my car a bit to make it more 'me,' if for nothing else... at least as a bonding experience between us (me and the car that is)
I've never done any 'mods' to my car before, but after watching some youtube videos of suped-up cooper's, I might look into a throaty exhaust system. Any recommendations? "cat-back" (whatever that means) seems to sound good (not too teenage Fast-and-Furious-wannabe, yet still sporty). Thoughts? Should I just go to a different forum?
Thanks again for instilling some mini-passion in me!
Glad to see that you are starting to understand. Being in the breakin period does take some of the fun out of it, but that will soon change.

The mini club I am in is great. But, note that being a BMW, your local Mini club may be an offshoot of the local chapter of the BMW Car Club. But do not dispair, they can be some great people too.

As for mods in general, read and watch this blog. You will see a lot of different things as people make posts. There are some amazing people doing amazing things to their Minis.

As for exhuast...I had an Invidia and thought it was too loud and it did drone at highway speeds. I love the sound of my new 2012. It is a bit louder than the '07 I had and no drone. A good option between the stock and Invidia would be the Borla system (not the agressive.). But here again is a case where meeting up with other mini owers would be good. Some one of them probably has a non-stock system in their car that you can listen to directly.

Most importantly...do it for the fun of it and enjoy
 
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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I don't want to disappoint you, but hardtops, convertibles and clubmans are all built in the United Kingdom. Which as you may know is the finest country in the world for car manufacture. We are also proud to produce Jaguars and Range Rovers along with Aston Martins and Morgans. Honda, Toyota and Nissan also have plants here. Most of these brands are foreign owned, but their owners are wise enough to know that British expertise in car manufacture cannot be beaten.
Oooo...my first car was a '59 MGA and I as a very happy person when that car became a Fiat 124 spyder... At that time the British car could "turn on you"

However, before you jump on me, I did learn a lot about cars with the MG and I appreciate it for that. I will also say that the Brits know how to put some "charm" in their cars that the German's seem to think is unnecessary. I bought the Mini, in part, because of that charm and knowing full well it was made in the UK.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 01:48 AM
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Oooo...my first car was a '59 MGA and I as a very happy person when that car became a Fiat 124 spyder... At that time the British car could "turn on you"

However, before you jump on me, I did learn a lot about cars with the MG and I appreciate it for that. I will also say that the Brits know how to put some "charm" in their cars that the German's seem to think is unnecessary. I bought the Mini, in part, because of that charm and knowing full well it was made in the UK.
Yes, the UK certainly had some dark years in it's car manufacturing history, but I hope that is behind us now. You are right that the Germans certainly did seem to strip out their cars and, to some, made them very austere compared to British products especially in the 1980s. Situation now very different when one looks at both of the German owned Rolls Royce and Bentley cars and their lavishly appointed interiors.

I get a great feel of wellbeing when I jump into my 2011 Cooper S diesel convertible. The ability to make such a wide range of trim choices makes it feel like it has been made for me, and of course it has!

By the way, I know 'oil burners' are not popular your side of the pond, and they are condemned here by purists, but I must say the 2 litre BMW unit is a masterpiece and the torque delivery suits my lazy driving style and the 'gas' mileage is wonderful in relation to the performance.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by recordman
I don't want to disappoint you, but hardtops, convertibles and clubmans are all built in the United Kingdom. Which as you may know is the finest country in the world for car manufacture. We are also proud to produce Jaguars and Range Rovers along with Aston Martins and Morgans. Honda, Toyota and Nissan also have plants here. Most of these brands are foreign owned, but their owners are wise enough to know that British expertise in car manufacture cannot be beaten.
Unless you're talking about the vintage MINIs, I don't understand how this is true. A UK car should have a VIN that begins with SA-SM. A car made in Germany has a VIN that begins with WA-W0. I think my Mini is WAWA or WYWY, I can't remember...but I know it starts with a W, which is Germany manufacture.

I'm just confused, that's all.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 04:45 AM
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MINI = built in Oxford
Oxford = located in England

MINI = built in England

This is important, it will be the essay portion of the final exam everyone takes they day they pick up their car. British law states that a minimum score of 80% is required, any motorers who don't score 80% have to wait one month before being eligible to re-take the exam and pick up their car.
 

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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by danigurrl
Unless you're talking about the vintage MINIs, I don't understand how this is true. A UK car should have a VIN that begins with SA-SM. A car made in Germany has a VIN that begins with WA-W0. I think my Mini is WAWA or WYWY, I can't remember...but I know it starts with a W, which is Germany manufacture.

I'm just confused, that's all.
MINI is owned by BMW and thus uses BMW VIN's regardless of where they are assembled. So yes you are correct, the VIN's state Germany but they are assembled in Oxford just like the original Mini's! I also found this odd when I got my MINI as I expected a UK VIN.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Subzero
MINI = built in Oxford
Oxford = located in England

MINI = built in England

This is important, it will be the essay portion of the final exam everyone takes they day they pick up their car. British law states that a minimum score of 80% is required, any motorers who don't score 80% have to wait one month before being eligible to re-take the exam and pick up their car.
Except for the COuntryman which is not build in England.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by recordman
I don't want to disappoint you, but hardtops, convertibles and clubmans are all built in the United Kingdom. Which as you may know is the finest country in the world for car manufacture. We are also proud to produce Jaguars and Range Rovers along with Aston Martins and Morgans. Honda, Toyota and Nissan also have plants here. Most of these brands are foreign owned, but their owners are wise enough to know that British expertise in car manufacture cannot be beaten.
This strikes me as a slightly odd first post... hmmm. You representing the British manufacturing industry. I know that Britain is rapidly loosing manufacturing but posting on a MINI forum... hehe

Anyways, since all my family are Brits, I think I can honestly say that historically British cars have been... ummm... sometimes questionably designed and built. Let's say lots of character, unique designs but not always well built.

I think with BMW taking over ownership we have all seen significant changes in build quality... just like Ford taking over Jaguar caused a huge jump in reliability. But I still have a rattle in my 3 week old JCW which should make you wonder what the Oxford plant is doing... Either way, one of the reasons I chose a MINI is because to me it is still fairly "British" but with a lot of German car qualities - but maybe not as dull as a 100% "German" car.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by walk0080
This strikes me as a slightly odd first post... hmmm. You representing the British manufacturing industry. I know that Britain is rapidly loosing manufacturing but posting on a MINI forum... hehe

Anyways, since all my family are Brits, I think I can honestly say that historically British cars have been... ummm... sometimes questionably designed and built. Let's say lots of character, unique designs but not always well built.

I think with BMW taking over ownership we have all seen significant changes in build quality... just like Ford taking over Jaguar caused a huge jump in reliability. But I still have a rattle in my 3 week old JCW which should make you wonder what the Oxford plant is doing... Either way, one of the reasons I chose a MINI is because to me it is still fairly "British" but with a lot of German car qualities - but maybe not as dull as a 100% "German" car.
No, no connection to the UK manufacturing industry, I promise you! However, someone has to speak up for the UK these days. Many of our European neighbours don't have much of a good word for us!

I agree with you about our poor historical design/quality record which was mainly caused by lack of investment and abysmal industrial relations, but now with the foreign money being ploughed in by Germany and India the UK has hopefully turned the corner.

It's great news that the MINI is so popular both in and outside of the UK (I'm delighted with mine) and the foreign exchange income helps with our country's balance of payments.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 07:23 AM
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No, no connection to the UK manufacturing industry, I promise you! However, someone has to speak up for the UK these days. Many of our European neighbours don't have much of a good word for us!
I just thought your posting was funny since I just read a newspaper article yesterday about the rapid decline of manufacturing in England. I think it was about the gov't choosing Siemens over a Canadian-owned, UK manufactured train cars.

BTW, British Smarties are the BEST!
 
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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I just thought your posting was funny since I just read a newspaper article yesterday about the rapid decline of manufacturing in England. I think it was about the gov't choosing Siemens over a Canadian-owned, UK manufactured train cars.

BTW, British Smarties are the BEST!
A great pity about that train order going to Germany rather than Bombardier. It seems that the EU rules might have deemed it illegal for the UK gov't to have given the business to a foreign company rather than support its own workforce as the Bombardier's offer might have been seen as not quite as competitive as Siemens. Wouldn't have seen such a situation in France or Germany, they would have placed the business domestically without batting an eyelid. Probably wouldn't even have bothered getting foreign tenders!

Thanks for supporting Smarties. Is Marmite popular in North America?
 
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 07:45 AM
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Thanks for supporting Smarties. Is Marmite popular in North America?
Apologies for the thread hijack LOL... I don't think Marmite is even available in Canada anymore. I never liked it - but my grandmother does!
 
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 09:52 AM
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clearly he was looking to be wowed by electronics and bells and whistles but MINI is a drivers car and euro cars dont have the best gadgets. Look at the bmw idrive which is the same as the MINI connected not all that. But that is not the point of a mini.
Its throwing the car into turns and loving every minute of it. MINI's cover a large demographic of customers but MINI's are not for everyone. Maybe MINI is not for you
 
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by walk0080
This strikes me as a slightly odd first post... hmmm. You representing the British manufacturing industry. I know that Britain is rapidly loosing manufacturing but posting on a MINI forum... hehe

Anyways, since all my family are Brits, I think I can honestly say that historically British cars have been... ummm... sometimes questionably designed and built. Let's say lots of character, unique designs but not always well built.

I think with BMW taking over ownership we have all seen significant changes in build quality... just like Ford taking over Jaguar caused a huge jump in reliability. But I still have a rattle in my 3 week old JCW which should make you wonder what the Oxford plant is doing... Either way, one of the reasons I chose a MINI is because to me it is still fairly "British" but with a lot of German car qualities - but maybe not as dull as a 100% "German" car.

You know a car is poorly made when a Ford-takeover causes a jump in reliability, lol.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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this thread just became really boring lol
 
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By the way, I know 'oil burners' are not popular your side of the pond, and they are condemned here by purists, but I must say the 2 litre BMW unit is a masterpiece and the torque delivery suits my lazy driving style and the 'gas' mileage is wonderful in relation to the performance.
You touch on a sore subject here, this side of the pond, that is driven by BMW not our lack of desire to own one. I know a number of people who have bought VW TDIs and love them. The is a regular subject in the letters to the editor of the BMW CCA magazine. It seems that there are a lot of people who would by one if it were available. It would be fantastic to be able to get an oil burner Countryman S All 4 over here...
 
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BMW has brought at least one diesel over here. A co-worker has one, and I have seen a bunch of ads for them. I'm betting that they're using that as a test program and that we'll see more oil-burners if it sells well.

...And that will, at least for them, answer the question about Americans buying diesels or not...
 
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 01:44 PM
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BMW has brought at least one diesel over here. A co-worker has one, and I have seen a bunch of ads for them. I'm betting that they're using that as a test program and that we'll see more oil-burners if it sells well.

...And that will, at least for them, answer the question about Americans buying diesels or not...
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I like my R53, but if it was not FWD I'd like it more
 
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I like my R53, but if it was not FWD I'd like it more
nodoze...you don't list a LSD in your signature. With the power your Mini has, that would make a big difference.

The compact size and not having a rear axial means that the Mini has a low polar moment of inertia which means they change direction with minimal input - they are tossable...to me that means fun
 
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