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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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Lol well today Cooper got me in trouble. I was leaving the bookstore, and was making a right turn at a green light, so instead of slowing down i downshifted and this was going onto a back road, so u already i got on it! After i got to around 75- 80 which was rather quick, i coasted until i saw a Expedition with a light bar!! (Sh*t) i slowed down to like 50, and the truck seemed to ignore me. Should be releif, right? I look up again and saw blue lights from a another copper who apparently was chasing me down! Luckily he only wrote me up for 7 over..
 
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 08:55 PM
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So did the officer ask you if you knew how fast you were going?
And did you say? No I didn't look at my dinner plate sized speedometer...
 
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 09:25 PM
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So did the officer ask you if you knew how fast you were going?
And did you say? No I didn't look at my dinner plate sized speedometer...
That's funny
 
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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Lol I passed 2 cops that were on the interstate with the radar gun out. I was doing 20 over and they both just pointed at my car smiled and seemed to turn and discuus amongst themselves! This is the most in cop magnet car ever! My trans am attracted cops like moths to a flame! And lolz at the dinner plate comment I suipose you could eat dinner from our spedo!
 
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 09:40 PM
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Un * cop magnent I hate autocorrect on my phone!
 
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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I have a Chile Red car and I just don't seem to get noticed by the police. It's a good thing and if I hit the gas a bit I'm very careful to do it in areas where they can't hide and I can see them first. Never had a ticket in the Mini. Now the GTO is a different story. I've been popped a couple times in that car. Luckily it was in town and I was able to attend some classes for a cool $150.00 to the city but they didn't go on my driving record. Wheew!
 
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by klricks
So did the officer ask you if you knew how fast you were going?
And did you say? No I didn't look at my dinner plate sized speedometer...
Lol actually i dont have the dinner plate speedometer. Mine is small and is located next to the tach!
 
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 10:08 PM
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Yea the cop didnt know for sure himself, i asked him how fast he clocked me and he said he didnt need the radar to know i was "Haulin ***"
 
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 10:10 PM
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That's even funnier
 
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Njcox
Lol I passed 2 cops that were on the interstate with the radar gun out. I was doing 20 over and they both just pointed at my car smiled and seemed to turn and discuus amongst themselves! This is the most in cop magnet car ever! My trans am attracted cops like moths to a flame! And lolz at the dinner plate comment I suipose you could eat dinner from our spedo!
Does your state do tickets by mail?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 07:06 AM
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Yea the cop didnt know for sure himself, i asked him how fast he clocked me and he said he didnt need the radar to know i was "Haulin ***"
Seems like a good ground on which to challenge the ticket...
 
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 08:01 AM
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If you challenge the ticket, there is a court date to appear. The officer sets aside one day to appear in court for all the tickets he has written. If you call up and say that day is not a good date for you, they will move the date. If the officer does not show up, you have a very good chance that the ticket will be dropped. Moving the date even one day can make the difference. They can miss one day of duty to be in court (They get paid for that day), but they will not spend their day off nor will they make sure they are not busy at work (Crime fighting) to sit until your case is called.

Just saying.. Who would want to go to court to assure you get a 7 MPH over speed limit ticket that sticks...
 
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 09:55 AM
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Lol I have been to that defensive driving class multiple time! Tickets in the trans am ws6, my audi tt 225, srt4, my moms mini van and my 2008 dodge chargerlol but not in the mini! I swear cops just don't notice these cars at all! I hope it stays that way!
 
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bradg33
Seems like a good ground on which to challenge the ticket...
The officer was good enough to give the OP a break. He knew he was speeding way over the limit, bite the bullet do the right thing. I'm not saying the OP feels like he needs to try and get out of the citation its some of our citizens who will try anything to slide on the ticket even when they know they were wrong. Sometimes you just have to man up and accept responsibility for your actions. Just my 2 cents......
 
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by motor12
The officer was good enough to give the OP a break. He knew he was speeding way over the limit, bite the bullet do the right thing. I'm not saying the OP feels like he needs to try and get out of the citation its some of our citizens who will try anything to slide on the ticket even when they know they were wrong. Sometimes you just have to man up and accept responsibility for your actions. Just my 2 cents......

Amen, sometimes having a little fun means being reckless and breaking the law, suck it up and pay it.

But it is true.... I've had my Cooper for a year and a half now, it seems like these cars have negative polarity on a radar detector....or is it because the police think only old folks drive these cars...
 
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by motor12
The officer was good enough to give the OP a break. He knew he was speeding way over the limit, bite the bullet do the right thing. I'm not saying the OP feels like he needs to try and get out of the citation its some of our citizens who will try anything to slide on the ticket even when they know they were wrong. Sometimes you just have to man up and accept responsibility for your actions. Just my 2 cents......

not for anything but "biting the bullet" and accepting a speeding ticket without contesting it means points on your license and most likely a huge increase on your insurance rates.

If it was a no-points ticket and there were no implications beyond paying a small fine, then so be it but where I live a ticket for even a couple mph over the limit is going to run you close to 300 bucks and several points on your license which means a hefty increase in your insurance rates. So "biting the bullet" would mean a $300 ticket plus an extra maybe $50 bucks a month or so on insurance. Add it all together and that means $900 bucks the first year and $600 every year after that just for going a few mph over the limit! Screw that!

There are a couple of options - you can plead guilty, pay the fine, and go to traffic school. This will eliminate the points and avoid an insurance increase. Or you can go to court and plead either not guilty and try to fight it or plead no contest. In most places if you have a good driving record and plead no contest the judge will usually give you a much reduced fine, no points, and may or may not send you to traffic school.

Personally, the few times in my life I've gotten a ticket I have always taken it to court. I've never ended up with points on my license and have only had to go to traffic school once.

btw, as a disclaimer, I have a huge issue with our system of traffic enforcement and feel that it has almost nothing to do with safety and is just a way to raise funds at the expense of citizens. I always encourage everyone to fight tickets.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 07:44 PM
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If you can't do the time, don't do the crime...........
 
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 07:54 PM
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That is why I love my Veterans plates (WV). They are a little of a "get out of jail" card.

Got pulled over doing 18 miles over once, but the officer said, "here is your a warning, thanks for serving, don't speed again." State of VA almost never gives warnings.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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The sooner you put the ticket behind you, the sooner you can get back to normal life.


Motor12.. even though on the surface I totally agree with you, it goes deeper than just a slap on the hand.
If you only do the speed limit and never ever exceed the posted MPH, then you do not need the MCS.
I agree that the highway is not a playground, but seven over the speed limit is not lane splitting at 120 MPH or DUI..
If you make a decision and your invest time to fight a ticket, do not set yourself up to lose.
Getting a ticket slows you down.
Getting a Pulley speeds you up.

There are freedoms. There are rights. There are privileges. There are ethics.
We make decisions every day.
Why add a pulley? Are you going to the track? Then why?
Going to a safety class is a very good answer. Solves a lot of issues (Ethical).

It is not just the ticket, it is the domino effect.
Taking the class can help to prevent the effect...
 
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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This is what makes this forum fun, everyone has a point of view and a good discussion is always fun.
Having said that, i will say i too enjoy a run up thru the gears and a bit of high spirited fun. But if i am stopped for speeding i naturally will try to talk myself out of the citation,if that fails i just take a defensive driving class and all is well,no points and insurance is not harmed. I will not go to court, plead not guilty and lie on the stand when i know i am guilty as hell. Thats just me. Remember driving is not your right its an earned privilege..
 
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by motor12
This is what makes this forum fun, everyone has a point of view and a good discussion is always fun.
Having said that, i will say i too enjoy a run up thru the gears and a bit of high spirited fun. But if i am stopped for speeding i naturally will try to talk myself out of the citation,if that fails i just take a defensive driving class and all is well,no points and insurance is not harmed. I will not go to court, plead not guilty and lie on the stand when i know i am guilty as hell. Thats just me. Remember driving is not your right its an earned privilege..
You don't have to get on the stand and lie in order to get out of the ticket. In our system, the burden is on the prosecution to PROVE that you were going a particular speed, not on you to prove that you were not. If the cop did not get you on radar, and did not pace you, the prosecution may have a difficult time proving beyond a reasonable doubt that you were going x miles per hour. If they can't prove that, you win. There is nothing wrong with forcing the state to actually prove the specifics of the charge they have levied against you. A cop "eyeballing" your speed is unlikely to be enough to prove BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that you were speeding. It would take some very convincing testimony, with a very specific description of how the cop determined your speed, in order to overcome that burden.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bradg33
You don't have to get on the stand and lie in order to get out of the ticket. In our system, the burden is on the prosecution to PROVE that you were going a particular speed, not on you to prove that you were not. If the cop did not get you on radar, and did not pace you, the prosecution may have a difficult time proving beyond a reasonable doubt that you were going x miles per hour. If they can't prove that, you win. There is nothing wrong with forcing the state to actually prove the specifics of the charge they have levied against you. A cop "eyeballing" your speed is unlikely to be enough to prove BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that you were speeding. It would take some very convincing testimony, with a very specific description of how the cop determined your speed, in order to overcome that burden.
This is how it should be and how our constitution is written, unfortunately our traffic court system completely turns our legal process on its head. Most traffic courts are kangaroo courts in which you are considered guilty unless you can either prove your innocence or get off on a technicality. In traffic court, a cop's word is considered to be all the proof needed. The presumption is that if the cop says it, it must be true and barring a technicality or the cop not showing up, you generally have to prove your innocence in an overwhelming manner. Like I said earlier, our traffic enforcement system is a sham. It is primarily there as a means to raise funds through, for lack of a better term, extortion, rather than for safety.

Best way to go about it where I live is to hire a traffic lawyer. They usually charge much less than the cost of the ticket and unless you have a terrible driving record, they guarantee no points.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 09:52 AM
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By stating not guilty, when you know you are, thats not a true statement, right? The point here is the OP stated he was way over the limit and he knew it. The officer also was able to determine this, so he issued a 7 mph over citation as a reminder to pay attention and slow down.You do know the officer may have been able to make a reckless driving case out of this i was not there so i can't say, but clearly the officer had other options but chose to give the OP a break. Once again it boils down to, should i fess up or try to beat the system. I say take your medicine, move on life is short. If you honestly feel that you are not at fault by all means have your day in court, This is America..
 
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Hey i just dont want this to show on my driving record as my insurance is high enough.. And im only 20 years old...
 
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by niquemarshall
Hey i just dont want this to show on my driving record as my insurance is high enough.. And im only 20 years old...
Let us know what you decide to do. Good luck
 
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