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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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does anyone know how to drift with an automatic mini cooper s iv been looking everywhere :S!
 
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 07:22 PM
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does anyone know how to drift with an automatic mini cooper s iv been looking everywhere :S!
The Mini is FWD so you cannot drift in the traditional sense. However,with the right setup and skill, you are able to get oversteer at will.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQMQkMvRG3I
 
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by slinger688
The Mini is FWD so you cannot drift in the traditional sense. However,with the right setup and skill, you are able to get oversteer at will.
how would i do that ?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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You would be better off getting a Miata or Nissan RWD. Something cheap with decent power to practice with.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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im guessing you probably want an extremely rigid rear end (stiffer shock/spring combo)

Best solution is probably to go somewhere where there is snow !!
 
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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I've always wanted a real AE-86 trueno, but they are getting a bit rare.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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As stated previously you aren't going to have much luck with the FWD MINI. But if you hop on a gravel or snow road oversteer has somewhat close results .
 
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 08:37 PM
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im confused ?!
is this drifting ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiCeO18TOeQ
 
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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Put the biggest possible rear sway bar on the stiffest setting, take a hard turn fast lifting off throttle at the apex and she'll break loose in the back. The trick is keeping it on the road afterwards.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 01:31 AM
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Yep big rear sway bar.
But really you got the wrong car and wrong transmission.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 02:55 AM
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Looks to me like all those videos are doing is just using the e-brake, not really drifting in the traditional sense.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 03:13 AM
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At lower speed, you can use the e-brake to induce oversteer. At track speeds, when you are close to the limits of the car, you can use trailing throttle or trailing brake to induce oversteer. Just be careful as the back end can move rather quickly.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Agarwaen
Put the biggest possible rear sway bar on the stiffest setting, take a hard turn fast lifting off throttle at the apex and she'll break loose in the back. The trick is keeping it on the road afterwards.
Keeping it on the road needs a lot of practice. But generally it is easier in a FWD. Just use your eyes to determine the relative rear yaw angle (and you gut feel as to how fast you are oversteering) and the steering wheel for the slip angle. When you determined you have gone far enough (usually before the car gets past 45 degrees) straighten the steering wheel to reduce the slip angle and point at the direction you want to go and apply power, as much as you have.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 07:08 AM
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Why would you even want to do that?

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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FUBSZ
im confused ?!
I agree, you are confused... Perhaps some basic understanding of physics and vehicle dynamics should be in order...

As others have noted, you cannot drift in the classic sense with a FWD car...

You could always drive you MINI in reverse and get it to drift that way!!!
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DneprDave
Why would you even want to do that?

Dave
I cannot speak for the op but for me when you drive at the edge of your abilities (not the cars), it is quite a fantastic sensation. Understeer, oversteer are all parts of the driving experience. It is the ability to control the car in almost any situation. While the Mini cannot drift in the traditional sense, it can still hang out it's back end. I have done some drifting with shifter carts before and it is fun.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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Don't forget to turn off the DSC first!
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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Drifting is definitely fun but drifting with a MINI doesn't sound too good. Sure it's fun to lose your back end while driving at your limit but I find the mini's real fun is in hitting perfect apexis every time

But to each his own and wish you luck in drifting a mini. You will definitely have to post videos of it
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MINIdave
Don't forget to turn off the DSC first!
Your DSC can be on. Just depends on how you approach the TTO or TBO. Once both wheels are loose, the DSC does not kick in most of the time. I turn off the DSC in the wet. It is really confused then.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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More E-brake!!!
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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Trying to drift in a Mini is just plain stupid.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mgrant
Drifting is definitely fun but drifting with a MINI doesn't sound too good. Sure it's fun to lose your back end while driving at your limit but I find the mini's real fun is in hitting perfect apexis every time

But to each his own and wish you luck in drifting a mini. You will definitely have to post videos of it
TTO and TBO is just normal everyday track driving for me, granted not a lot of oversteer. It is not power drifting. To be fast it is necessary to get some slip angles and be at the edge.

There is no such thing as a perfect turn or a perfect apex. Just make less mistakes than the other guy and you will be faster all else equal. At the track speeds, just a few inches from turn in or apex or track out or 1-2 mph faster one way or another, you will be testing your ability to handle oversteer or understeer. Just know how to do it when you need it.
 
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