Thing is the V1 is the only detector with two sensors, one facing foward and one back, how do the other detectors detect from the rear?

 

Reflected signals, as Radar is radio waves, the signal passes the detector and bounces off parts of your car or the ahead, road signs, etc.

 

I have an Escort 8500 and I would agree that the V1 is better (the arrows are handy, and it tends to pick up things a little more quickly). However, I have a mental barrier that prevents me from spending the $400 on a V1, and the Escort has been great for me for $150 (refurbs direct from Escort on eBay). I've had two good laser saves with it and countless radar ones.

 

Hmm......that can't be as accurate as an actual rear facing sensor? I mean would you face a regular detector backwards?

 

How would you know? Signal strength. If he's close: strong signal. If he's far behind: weak signal.

 

No. You buy 2 of the "much better" cheaper ones, and have one facing each direction!

 

I have an 8500 for my bike and that works great. I am tempted to get an Escort Redline. Anyone had experience with these yet?

 

Of course it's not as accurate, thats why they only have Arrows for the laser and not the radar. They can still properly ID the frequency.

The ideal setup is an Sti-R (discontinued) or a 9500ci in your bumper, and a V1 on your dash, so you get immediate where the source is, what frequency it is on and how strong the signal is and how many signals are out there. But that adds up quickly, $400 for the V1, $1600 for the 9500ci, but the shifters it comes with are near worthless so another $800 for a Blinder M47 or Laser Interceptor system.

 

I haven't used one first hand but reports from people I know that have used and tested them are confirming that they're more sensitive on Ka than the V1, and match it on K band, still no arrows but you get frequency ID. The buttons are moved to a better position so you can mount it against the headliner and not have to fight to reach them.

 

I have a $30 used Whistler that's saved my lead-footed **** on more than a few occasions

 

The arrows are for entertainment value...mostly!!
I really like having a GPS built into a detector...having my speed displayed, or using it to set the sensistivity is great. I don't let it auto learn false alerts, rather I set them to alert manualuy after a few times verrifing it is a false alert. It does work...I can silance the alerts in a shopping center, and it will still beep to tell me a cop is sitting there grabbing folks!! I have the 9500i, and had the non x2 8500 previously, and it makes it so when I hear a beep. I know it is true...not a likely false!!

 

You are mistaken! How can you say something like that without checking first?



Thanks!

 

Thats good to know, thanks. It's $499. bucks to so? Does it offer the remote units as the V1 does?

 

When was the V1 last updated? It's been the same for years! Does it offer GPS and preloaded information to help weed out false alerts and to offer reminders of speedcams and traps? It looks to be a bit of a clunker too! The Escort has the smartcord and you can turn the display to night mode and the smart cord has lights that blink. Oooh stealthy. I love my 9500i and I'm not bashing the V1, it just seems you are pro-V1 and bash everything else....

 

the v1 is actaully shorter and about the size size thick. slightly wider and the wind screen mount is a little stronger. I have the 9500ix just an fyi..

oh and he is bashing everyhting else becuase for him the v1 is king... thats fine i understand.

 

That's a tube that reflects the laser signal from the rear to the front laser sensor. And I do believe he was refering to the 1 vs 2 radar antennas
The V1 offers the Full display, the Escorsts offer power indicator light, and a flashing alert light. Unless you go with the Qi45 or 9500ci, that are true remote install units.
The V1 has been updated several times thought the last few year, the software has been improved significantly and there have been minor internal hardware upgrades.

The V1 doesn't offer GPS, it allows the users to determine is the signal is accurate or not, which depends upon the driver's philosophy and driver habit to determine if the extra $100 is worth it.

The V1 ( 4.5 in. L x 3.6 in. W x 1.0 in. H.) is thinner and shorter but wider than the 9500 (1.4" H x 2.90" W x 5.35" L), but I suppose if you want the detector that photographs well.....

 

Looks are important, that's why we have MINIs

However, it doesn't just photograph well, it also performs well.

 

Assuming you're willing to risk TrueLocking police radar and have reduced I/O ability to alert your rabbit has been hit and have zero ability to alert to Q/T of your rabbit or yourself; then yes it will match the V1 on K, come near it on X and beat it on C/O 35.5Ka while matching the V1 on C/O 33.8Ka and 34.7Ka.

Just as the V1 is a good detector assuming you're willing to learn about your area and tailor the settings to reduce falses, or tolerate the extra alerts.

Oh and I have a MINI for how it looks, I have it for how it drives.

 

Sorry, didn't realize that this was a V1 only thread. Don't have to be so catty about it.

 

Woe calm down dude. I said thanks for your info But it turns out the Escort dosen't have two antennas, only a reflector tube . And it seems the Escort dosen't have the remote units as does the V1. And show me one post just one where I, "bash everything else"?

 

I'm just basing off the testing and years of first hand user reports, rather than assumptions.
http://www.guysoflidar.com/august-20...ctor-test.html

http://www.guysoflidar.com/july-2007...ctor-test.html

http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-det...fic-tests.html

http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-det...rld-tests.html

As I said earlier in the thread, those items are well worth the trade off for those that won't listen to a detector that alerts to everything, and the 9500 is very reputable, as well as the redline. But no detector is perfect, and none is really the "best" they've all got weaknesses and knowing what you're vulnerabilities are and matching the detector to your preference, area, style of driving, and whether you do mainly city or highway driving all plays into the detector that most suits the individual. I know many people that didn't consider those factors and return the V1 for the Escort by the end of the 30 day trial, and I know people that have sent the Escorts back for V1s, and people that run variations of an Escort with a V1. I rather enjoyed the carefully placed 8500 V1 combo to know both the make of the radar gun (based upon the frequency) and where it was and how many signals there were.

 

I'll pipe in again (probably for the last time).

The OP has already purchased a fabulous Whistler that I am sure he will be happy with.

And the rest of this discussion has turned into something similar to a "Which is better? Ford or Chevy?" Ford lovers will probably never say Chevy, and vice versa, and the same is true for Escort owners versus Valentine 1 owners. Once you pick one, odds are pretty good you'll stick with it and defend your choice no matter what the pros and cons are.

 

Just getting back from a 6 hour drive facing no less them 15 CHP officers it was nice to have a V1 and several other cars that wanted to beat the Mini. With instant on and Laser with its small beam width if your the lead dog you have a significant chance to get popped by Smokey. Really the fact of the matter is with the costs of most speeding tickets going up if you avoid one your detector no matter which brand has paid for its self. Yes I did enjoy the trip driving from central California to San Diego and back, however I enjoyed several other things; (1) getting home in one piece (2) not having to pay any fines (3) 38.9 MPG (4) sitting in a parking lot after the drive with several other Mini owners talking about the driver I had seen that drove by at Mach 1 only to see them stopped a short distance latter enjoying the blue light special.

 

Nice...being leader of the pack is definitely a risky move, regardless of what detector you're using.

 

Yes, with "instant on" capability for law enforcement radar, no detector regardless of price can defend against that.