Will it (the fire) be big enough for me to see it down here?

 

Hmmm. Divisive issue. I checked my calendar and I am not working outside of the home that day. I think I'll take a nice afternoon walk and keep the vehicles in the garage. For me, it's as easy as taking the reusable bags to the grocery store. A no-brainer.

 

yea rite!

sorry but I use my car everyday, and I don't believe that humans are having any significant impact on global warming. If you look through the temps of earth over the course of it's life cycle it has always cooled off and warmed up.

Plus wasn't the gentlemen (sorry forgot his name) who is the one keeping track of the global temp actually caught falsifying the temps? I read somewhere that he just took the temp from one month and brought it into the next months column which of course changed the temp for that month in an upward trend.
It happened about a year ago or so. I read it somewhere on Glenn Becks web site. He has the full documentation somewhere on there, names, document name, dates, etc.
(jm.02)

 

I am glad I am not the only one that has switched from a H2 to a MINI people are asking me all the time what happened to your HUMMER it shrunk But, it's fun! and gets 30 mpg the wife tell me I should sell it cause I never drive it anymore.. hummm... any one need a 08 H2 Hummer with 4" lift and 37" tires ???

 

i think we should all rent hummers for the day and leave them running all day with every accessory and light running to promote the economy!

These wackos are going to put us all into slavery!

I don't know about you, but my mini purchases were not motivated by global warming!

meckonica

 

Yep! Turned out it was one of Al Gore's buddies. Here's the link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/c...zing-heat.html

 

Sorry, I can't bicycle 60 miles to the doctor appointment. However, I should be able to avoid motoring until 1700 Z, which will put me in solidarity with the work day of our European MINI brethren and sistren

 

Hmmm.... My logic detector is turned on, but it's not beeping

 

Regretful that MINI has taken that mantle. My British Racer is already one of the greener cars on the road. Besides the point, it has a White Roof to blot out some of the blacktop.

 

I liken MINIUSA asking me not to drive the vehicle to the dealerships disgust that I ask them to remove their sticker from my car when I purchased it. I paid to drive it and they are not paying me or giving me a discount not to drive it. Don't believe the hype around this global warming thing, I think its a terrific sales pitch and many undustries are popping up as a cause for it. Should have started my own.

 

In DFW (as in most places, though perhaps not all) the car is king and you really need one to even get the basics accomplished. However, as a mass transit (rail) commuter, I find it interesting the mind-shift one must go through to exist without a car, if only during working hours. I have friends who simply cannot fathom not having a car at their beck and call at any moment of the day!! I know a lot of train commuters, and it is curious the networks and opportunities that get developed when walking is the only option. Some activities are out of the question....but that also leaves the door open for others. Frankly, it's kinda enlightening.

Parking one's car once in awhile may seem far-fetched, and for many it really is...but in a world in which people drive just to pick up the mail (like my neighbors) it doesn't hurt to consider other options now and again.

 

Werd.

Oh, and I work from home. Chances are good I won't be motoring that day.

 

I spent a year in DC commuting downtown on the Metro and loved it. about 45 minutes of alone and quiet to read the paper, a book etc. I never once drove downtown. Now I have no public transportation, so I'm stuck. I'd prefer the public transportation.

 

Yeah, especially when extreme traffic is on the menu. I do love to motor (and lots of folks do...rightly, I think) but I prefer to enjoy the experience at a more leisurely pace.

 

in order for your logic detector to operate, you may need to disable your emotion chip, upgrade your horse power, and open yourself to listen to the RIGHT side of the argument.

It may just surprise you.

 

This is definitely a motivation for one segment of the MINI-owning universe, and MINI seems to be well aware of this. However, there are other owners who are just as enthusiastic and their approach to the car is just as authentic from a MINI/Mini perspective. That MINI sends down some marketing that addresses one segment of MINI owner should not shock us, but it may not make sense to everybody either.

I think the trick here is to fully recognize (as MINIUSA does) that there are several different owner groups out there who love MINIs...this is primarily due to the various strengths of the car. In the end this is a very good thing, even if our worlds collide now and again.

 

hi gokartride;

You have just won the award for the most centrist, politically correct post of the year.

the one common thread among all mini owners is we are all extremeist wackos in our own right.

Cudos to Mini for producing a product that touches and appeals to all levels of the "wackodom" (I think a new word has just been born) and having the best marketing support in the industry bar none.

 

Well, thanks but I did plagiarize a bit. MINIUSA spelled out three segments of their market appeal in a recent webcast. It got me thinkin'.

To me the tuners are crazy...but then you have to deal with whole John Cooper-thing. I think all-black MINIs are odd....but apparently Gert Hildebrand (head of MINI design) loves that look above all. I also think all JCW owners must be lunatics...but Mike Cooper himself says "you can never have enough horsepower." Me?? I like a 40+ mpg hypermiling car w/ superb driving dynamics....to me that is makes sense in a MINI.

At some point one just has to accept the different levels of appeal this little car engenders.

 

I'm not understanding your logic. The tuners are crazy? why because we like a faster then stock car? we like to drive fast? we dont care about a measly few more mpg's?
If it wasnt for the tuners such as john Coopers tuning,And the modern tuners of today, the mini would have never recieved the cult status that it did. Tuners are what put certain cars on the map.
do you think the mini would be as popular today if everyone drove around in a fully stock automatic justacooper? I think not.

 

that Motoringfile made this a lead story yesterday and there is not one single post replying.

Could it be that Gabe (who has put his full support behind this promotion) is "editing" the responses that are being posted he may not agree with?

I find it hard to believe it hasn't had an overwhelming response from both sides. Historcally, the issue creates a firestorm of posts. Mostly from "green" folks.

 

The essence of mini... We all have a love for the car. We all just love different aspects.

Mark

 

Comments have been turned off on that post due to the normal politically leaning responses it would have surely gotten. Unfortunately that sort of thing all too quickly turns personal and gets ugly based on past experiences (and as seen in this thread).

 

Is it really such a big deal? It is a suggestion.. lets not motor that day.. you can choose to motor, or leave the car in the garage.. not really such a painful thing.. and if you cant leave it in the garage... drive on.. no one said you HAD to do this.. I have no problem with it for the day... and like someone suggested.. why not car pool that day if you have to go somewhere.. its not contrary to mini urging us to motor on.. seems that bit of advice doesnt upset many here.. you actually do do it.. so why not give this a try... or will this interrupt your trip to starbucks for the day?

 

Personally I get annoyed at issues like this because of all the missinformation taken as "absolute truth" by liberals and now dems. And when you show them that the whole global warming issue is just a farse that is making certain political and special project groups millions of dollars, they dismiss you as being an extremist and anti american.
take the issue of "green cars" (prius especially). do these "tree huggers" realize that there "green car" is more toxic to the earth then our mini? How? we dont have the battery cells which are much harder on our enviroment then non battery celled cars.
and the list goes on and on.

It also makes me laugh that this web site is so sensitive that they have to turn off comments instead of letting people speak there minds even if it sparks heated debates. Sometimes i feel like im amongst children the way everyones fragile little egos get so hurt so quick.

 

I generally try to drive as little as possible, so one day pledged to avoid motoring has little impact on me. (I still have qualms engaging in motoring for the sake of motoring--but that's my problem, not anyone else's [yet].) In the grand scheme of things, a day spent not driving, even on a large scale, accomplishes little if it doesn't lead to longer-term changes in habits and behaviors, and to accomplish that, a day like this at the very least promotes awareness of the issue (including being as informed as possible of the evidence in support of and in opposition to climate change theory).

My personal theory is that, regardless of the veracity of climate change theory, any system with any sort of homeostatic regulation (which presumably includes our external environment) will act to maintain it. Supposing that the output of human industry and activity represents a massive spike in the input to the control function with no equally compensatory activity, I think it's a good bet something will act to oppose that spike (negative feedback). What's not known is what form that response will take. So, it seems the better course of action to play it safe and conserve in the long run.