General MINI Talk Shared experiences, motoring minutes, and other general MINI-related discussion that applies to all MINIs, regardless of model, year or trim.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Is the MINI Union Jack UPSIDE DOWN???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 02:30 PM
  #1  
UKDragon's Avatar
UKDragon
Thread Starter
|
Iguana Tamer
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 680
Likes: 0
From: Fremont, CA
Is the MINI Union Jack UPSIDE DOWN???

I was speaking to some non-mini people
who are from the UK, and one of them accused me of my
union jack (factory installed) being on UPSIDE DOWN!
This is what they said:

"you do realise your flag is on upside down and is a sign of distress that way up?"

DISTRESS???? Hearing that made me distressed....

But then another Brit responded:

"Nope! The flag is the right way up from the way we're looking at it...
as is the flag on your tie. The thick white diagonal band should be on
top nearest the flagstaff, or to the left if shown in a pictorial
representation (like the stars in the US flag are on the left)"

Anyone ever heard of this controversy????
Are our MINI flags upside down or NOT? lol

Photo that was referred to:

 
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 02:49 PM
  #2  
sequence's Avatar
sequence
6th Gear
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,880
Likes: 3
From: Your Worst Nightmare :)


No, don't think so... I think you were punk'd
 
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 02:52 PM
  #3  
UKDragon's Avatar
UKDragon
Thread Starter
|
Iguana Tamer
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 680
Likes: 0
From: Fremont, CA
I chalk it up to jealousy
 
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 03:07 PM
  #4  
berto's Avatar
berto
3rd Gear
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Centennial, Colorado
Nope it is on correctly. If the flagpole was your roof spoiler and looking at it from the direction we are, it is exactly as it should be flown.

bob g
 
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 04:52 PM
  #5  
Btwyx's Avatar
Btwyx
6th Gear
iTrader: (2)
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 3,535
Likes: 3
From: Mountain View, CA
Or if you look at it from the other side, the flagpole would be along the windscreen. Without putting in a flagpole, you can't say.
 
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 05:53 PM
  #6  
#20Works4me's Avatar
#20Works4me
5th Gear
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 975
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
As mentioned as long as the white thick part is on top and on your left when looking at it then it's correct.
 
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 07:16 PM
  #7  
COR BLMY's Avatar
COR BLMY
6th Gear
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,349
Likes: 2
From: Concord, California
Specifications for flag use



The flag does not have reflectional symmetry, due to the slight pinwheeling of St Patrick's cross, which is technically called the counterchange of saltires. Thus, it has a right side and a wrong side up. To fly the flag the correct way up, the broad portion of the white cross of St Andrew should be above the red band of St Patrick (and the thin white portion below) in the upper hoist canton (the corner at the top nearest to the flag-pole), giving the Scottish symbol precedence over the Irish symbol. This is expressed by the phrases wide white top and broad side up. Traditionally, flying a flag upside down is understood as a distress signal. In the case of the Union Flag, the difference is so subtle as to be easily missed by many.


Your UJ ...is thefore CORRECT ... in you photo IF you visilise the ploe at the spoiler.

If the photo was taken looking at the drivers side ...you would need to visilise the pole at the wind shield for it to be correct.


Actually the flag on your tie is wrong... well as long as your standing up it is.
In ALL future photos of you wearing that tie ... you need to be laying down
 

Last edited by COR BLMY; Nov 6, 2008 at 08:04 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 08:04 PM
  #8  
UKDragon's Avatar
UKDragon
Thread Starter
|
Iguana Tamer
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 680
Likes: 0
From: Fremont, CA
Excellent! Thanks!
 
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 09:36 PM
  #9  
glnr13's Avatar
glnr13
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,737
Likes: 4
From: Los Angeles
uh yeah good luck with that
 
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 10:50 PM
  #10  
AggieMini11's Avatar
AggieMini11
5th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 650
Likes: 0
From: College Station, TX
How do the Lybians signal destress?
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 12:41 AM
  #11  
mattsenpai's Avatar
mattsenpai
4th Gear
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 538
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TEXAS
augh! staring at that is like an illusion now
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 02:07 PM
  #12  
myminirox's Avatar
myminirox
3rd Gear
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 248
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC
Originally Posted by AggieMini11
How do the Lybians signal destress?
Or the Japanese?
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 04:44 PM
  #13  
robbybee's Avatar
robbybee
OVERDRIVE
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 11,546
Likes: 0
From: Behind the Orange Curtain
Originally Posted by myminirox
Or the Japanese?
Or the French?

Hell, who cares about the French...
 
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 01:45 PM
  #14  
miniclubman's Avatar
miniclubman
6th Gear
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,291
Likes: 5
From: Hauppauge, NY
Originally Posted by UKDragon
I was speaking to some non-mini people
who are from the UK, and one of them accused me of my
union jack (factory installed) being on UPSIDE DOWN!
This is what they said:

"you do realise your flag is on upside down and is a sign of distress that way up?"

DISTRESS???? Hearing that made me distressed....

But then another Brit responded:

"Nope! The flag is the right way up from the way we're looking at it...
as is the flag on your tie. The thick white diagonal band should be on
top nearest the flagstaff, or to the left if shown in a pictorial
representation (like the stars in the US flag are on the left)"

Anyone ever heard of this controversy????
Are our MINI flags upside down or NOT? lol
How can a flag with no fixed frame of reference be considered upside-down or rightside-up? Tell them to get a life, and remind them that we kicked their asses once, and we can do it again, if provoked.
 
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 02:13 PM
  #15  
erickvonzipper's Avatar
erickvonzipper
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,384
Likes: 0
From: LI, NY
Originally Posted by miniclubman
How can a flag with no fixed frame of reference be considered upside-down or rightside-up? Tell them to get a life, and remind them that we kicked their asses once, and we can do it again, if provoked.
+1.

On another note, if you think of the flag pole at the spoiler, then the decal should be one way. But if you think of the flagpole at the front, allowing the 'flag' to 'billow' in the breeze, then it should be mounted the other way. Either way, it doesn't really matter.
 
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 02:29 PM
  #16  
OldLoad's Avatar
OldLoad
2nd Gear
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 128
Likes: 2
From: Las Vegas (ex-Ely, UK)
For what it is worth, the UK has a different slant on their flag; it is actually the monarch's flag; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Flag.
There is also a book, The Union Jack: The Story of the British Flag by Nick Groom which goes into greater depth. Should anyone be interested, go to Amazon.co.uk, where copies are available for as little as 1 pence plus mailing charges.
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 11:29 AM
  #17  
WatfordMini's Avatar
WatfordMini
Neutral
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
"and remind them that we kicked their asses once, and we can do it again, if provoked."
When did this happen?
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 12:18 PM
  #18  
Parkerton's Avatar
Parkerton
4th Gear
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 463
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco Peninsula
Yay! I'm okay
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 12:29 PM
  #19  
AKIndiMini's Avatar
AKIndiMini
OVERDRIVE
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 8,011
Likes: 6
From: Kodiak, AK
I love the pic, btw.
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 03:07 PM
  #20  
miniconcarne's Avatar
miniconcarne
6th Gear
iTrader: (20)
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,687
Likes: 1
From: Falcon Colorado
Originally Posted by WatfordMini
"and remind them that we kicked their asses once, and we can do it again, if provoked."
When did this happen?

1776ish
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 08:09 PM
  #21  
Ancient Mariner's Avatar
Ancient Mariner
6th Gear
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,517
Likes: 3
From: Washington. No, the other one.
Originally Posted by miniconcarne
1776ish
Give or take. Tea? Harbor? Comin' back to ya?
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 08:52 PM
  #22  
Oxybluecoop's Avatar
Oxybluecoop
6th Gear
15 Year Member
iTrader: (-1)
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,977
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
Here's the answer!
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 09:03 PM
  #23  
AKIndiMini's Avatar
AKIndiMini
OVERDRIVE
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 8,011
Likes: 6
From: Kodiak, AK
Doh! I can't believe I fell for that!

Now that song is stuck in my head. THANKS!
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2008 | 07:41 AM
  #24  
miniconcarne's Avatar
miniconcarne
6th Gear
iTrader: (20)
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,687
Likes: 1
From: Falcon Colorado
Originally Posted by WatfordMini
"and remind them that we kicked their asses once, and we can do it again, if provoked."
When did this happen?
Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner
Give or take. Tea? Harbor? Comin' back to ya?
I was trying to jog Waterfordmini's memory.
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2008 | 02:33 PM
  #25  
erickvonzipper's Avatar
erickvonzipper
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,384
Likes: 0
From: LI, NY
What I find somewhat amusing is that the car is owned by a German company and has parts from various parts of the world, depending on the year. Because it's assembled in Britain, it's British? The name and concept are British, yes. But is the car? Are Hondas assembled in Marysville, Ohio American? I think not.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:59 PM.