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Italian Job (1969) versus Italian Job (2003)

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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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Aren't they doing another one in Brazil?
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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I've got them both, and I like them both for different reasons. The original is definitely at a slower pace though. The original Bond movies from the 60s can look a little cheesy at times too, but still likeable.

My favorite bit: "We have to work as a team. That means you do everything that I say."
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Mini
The original one was the best, hands down...

The "action" in the new one is, IMO, no more than choppy editing put together into a montage to disquise the fact that these actors can't drive! The girl is OK, what's she doing in a movie?

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The actors can drive, they went through a 2 week long stunt driving school.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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I like the new one. But then I have a new 'MINI'. Go to the classic Mini boards and I'm sure they'll all know the first movie.

I liked the new one, and it really felt like the old Mission Impossible tv series to me, especially the end. The bit where Norton shows up and they've already set things up with the Ukranians. Little surprise plot element they hide from us and pop out that they've already got covered. Very MI: like...

I WANT to like the one from '69, but I've tried to watch it twice and it put me to sleep. I'll try again after a nap!
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy1026
The actors can drive, they went through a 2 week long stunt driving school.

Yeah, they can definitely drive. Jason Statham (Handsome Rob) was the one who did all the BMW films along with the Transporter movies.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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[Lorna picks Charlie up from prison]
Charlie Croker: This car belongs to the Pakistani ambassador!
Lorna: It does?
Charlie Croker: Typical, isn't it? I've been out of jail five minutes, and already I'm in a hot car.
Lorna: Charlie, I just wanted you to come out in style, baby.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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Mr. Bridger (Noel Coward) the old guy who is treated like royalty in prison was approached by ex-con Charlie Croker (Michael Caine) to back and finance a scheme to steal gold in Italy. I guess they celebrated toward the end of the movie as he was able to orchestrate the plan while he is incarcerated and was able to pull-it off under the Mafia's noses.


I just like the fact that they use the same names in the 2003 version.

Charlie Croker - Mark Wahlberg
Mr. Bridger - Donald Sutherland

Originally Posted by davavd
My feelings, exactly. Last time I watched the original (3rd time??), I realized that if I knew who the old guy in the prison was, his role might make more sense.... Can someone enlighten me?
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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Remember, the first one put the Mini on the map. Made it an icon. And it had Benny Hill as the Professor. No contest!
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Charlie croker...

Just remember this - in this country they drive on the wrong side of the road.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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I like them both, but i think the original is the best.
 

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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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I own both also and like them both, but IMO the first one is the better of the two. It has better scenery, lines and driving. Remakes just never seem to be as good as the original.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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Never seen the 1st one, but watched the new one last night. I have a feeling I'll be watching it a lot more over the next few weeks as the wait for my MINI gets shorter and shorter!!!
 
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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I own both on DVD I really enjoy them both. I like to think of the new one as a kind of sequel. So we know where the gold went and they had to go and get it back.

As for the "cliff hanger" in the extras section of the dvd they do state that they left it that way in case they made enough money to do a sequel. It's kind of fun to come up with your own idea for the ending though.

Also on the original extras there is an awsome deleted scene of the MINIs and some Fiats driving on ice with a small orchestra playing at the other end. The driving in the first one is probably better than the second.

I think the character development on the second was better, you didn't care about all the characters in the first.

I can watch either of them at anytime.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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I've only seen the remake so I added the original to my Netflix queue, so now I can check out the original
 
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by danandtan
I liked the first one ok. Just saw it earlier this week actually. I'm just not crazy about how it ended. The minis definately seemed to have more character in the 69 version, but I still like the 2003 version better.
SPOILER! DO NOT READ if you haven't seen the '69 version!!


A reason for that is because of Britain's weird censorship laws at the time. Charlie and his guys were seen as bad guys so the law said that the movie couldn't end showing him getting away with the money. That's why it ended with the bus scene instead. It was a lousy way to end the movie. Remember that the church had a little bit of influence on what movies could be release and they nearly succeeded in preventing the Monty Python movies from being released.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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Thanks for bringing back a thread from over a year ago to mention that point.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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Never too old to bring an old thread back to life....

I like the newer version better because of the more modern MINI's.
And let us not forget the better looking woman...
 
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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I like the original better just because it seems to have more of that mini
'culture' in it. What may translate as 'boring' for some people may be that
they just don't understand British humor, as many Americans don't. It's
just different. I'm not a big fan of today's films for the most part.
Too caught up in the graphics and big name actors that they lose
the storyline. They are movies for two completely different generations.
But I think what it comes down to is that the original is just too slow
for those born in the MTV era. (though I'm one of them and I still
prefer the original!)
 
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 12:21 PM
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I saw the original on TV years ago and it took years to get to see it again It was great years ago and I still love it. The best part of the new movie is Cincinnati MINI paid for all their customers to see it the night before it was really released. It was the first gathering of the new MINI I ever saw.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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I watched both, and I definitely like the newer one better, but that's not to say that I don't plan on owning both! Found the 2003 one for $7 used. Not to hunt down the original...
 
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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I like the first one too. I know Phil Wicks, he was one of the stunt drivers in the first one. However I do have to say that Charlize Theron is great to look at.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NashvilleMiniStan
I like the first one too. I know Phil Wicks, he was one of the stunt drivers in the first one. However I do have to say that Charlize Theron is great to look at.
+1 to that last part!!
 
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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I love the original and saw it years ago because I like heist films. The new one I got as a freebie for buying an HD player and while it was enjoyable, other than the Minis and a few action scenes it's forgettable. A pity, really. I hope the sequel is better. Maybe the director and writers learned something. I just happened to buy a Mini years later.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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I think I would have to give the nod to the original as well, but I enjoy them both immensely.

And I agree with the Charlize Treron mention, and I also like that she is driving an original Mini in it as well, so, sort of the best of both worlds there too.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by wandrur
Not to hunt down the original...
I just got the original from Amazon for $8.

It's been a while since I've seen the "remake" - I think they have it at the library, I'll have to order it. To tell the truth I don't remember much about it except for the Mini getaway so ... guess the rest wasn't that memorable. The original was great - very funny, loved Michael Caine - worth seeing for sure.
 
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