Originally Posted by GREY MATTER

well i have read everyones posts in this thread up to mine. I will start by saying I was on this run, i was in the "fast group".I also should point out i know these roads vrey well because i'm a local. I have to say i am always saddend by someones loss,club run or not though, accidents always happen, and to not participate in a run because you are worried about it is silly. Don't drive anyware then, take the bus!
On this run as you all know NOW there was an accident. I did not see it but drove by after it had occured. I will not pass any judgement on what went wrong or if it could have been avoided. I will however pass judgement on members who WERE NOT THERE and are bad mouthing the club and the driver involved when they have no firsthand knowledge of the accident. There is one person in this thread in my opinion who really needs to apologize to our club and the driver involved. The reason for this is simple. I shot video that day, this is a small part of that video. This was soon after the start and well before the accident.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrfH7zqQSXI
As you can see the car leaves our lane, crosses the double yellow completely out of camera view then back into our lane. We were traveling at maybe 5mph over the posted speed limit for this corner and there were no cyclists on the road. Absolutely no reason to go over the double yellow. No one was playing catch up, no one was pushing him. This driver is the very same driver who has posted in here claiming he started with the run and left because he desided it was unsafe to participate in. He also states he will not participate in another event till things change. GOOD I DON"T WANT TO SEE YOU DIE IN A HEAD ON COLLISION!!!! I agree with you totally crossed the double yellow well there is always one to ruin it for the rest
I want to give thanks in here to Rustyboy155. He missed out on the majority of the run because he stuck by his fellow member when they needed him. He may be only 20 but if you read his posts and have met him you would know, he has a good head on his shoulders. I had the pleasure of meeting him on the very last strech of our run and was glad he joined us for lunch. He is an asset to our club and we could all learn something from him.

Originally Posted by spikedmike

The other one happen as I was going an easy 50 MPH on a straight being a sweeper on run to Big Bear. An old lady was headed the opposite direction,bounced off a guard rail and coreened into my right of way..I clipped her right rear quarter panal. She was driving an 80 's something New Yorker. My MINI had $23000 Damage. Sux!!
I've heard about too many accidents that have happened on indivisual runs and some on club runs
PLEASE DRIVE CARFULLY AND HAPPY MOTORING-Mike-

Originally Posted by MLWagner79

Well said. This sounds really preschool, but it's true - it really is all fun and games until someone gets hurt. And it's not just about keeping yourself safe - nobody wants to be the driver who "accidentally" kills a family of four with stupid driving.

Originally Posted by MINIclo

Whenever I've done runs, we use FRS radios, but when the number of cars gets over about 20, it's hard to keep everyone together, even with the radios in use.