2006 Formula 1 Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by bee1000n
Pretty classy, but sadly that's the result of not having a top tier sponsor on board at this point. Sure would be nice if all F1 cars had big numbers on them!
Personally I love the drivers name on the side of the car...especially Kimi (my name is Kim) because my friends always joke "hey look, someone else is driving your car".
Originally Posted by adame
Is there a schedule as to when teams can launch a new vehicle? Or do they do it when they think they're ready? Are there rules/courtesies to follow?
Can't tell the players without a scorecard...
2006 Driver Line-Ups (note that Aguri Suzuki's team was not granted admission into the F1 circus, probably due to them not having $48,000,000 bond posted. They can still be admitted if the other teams unanimously grant them permission).
2006 Formula One World Championship entry list
Mild Seven Renault
1 Fernando Alonso
2 Giancarlo Fisichella
(sponsor TBA) McLaren Mercedes
3 Kimi Raikkonen
4 Juan Pablo Montoya
Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro
5 Michael Schumacher
6 Felipe Massa
Panasonic Toyota Racing
7 Ralf Schumacher
8 Jarno Trulli
WilliamsF1 Team
9 Mark Webber
10 Nico Rosberg
Lucky Strike Honda Racing F1 Team
11 Rubens Barrichello
12 Jenson Button
Red Bull Racing
14 David Coulthard
15 Christian Klien
BMW Sauber F1 Team
16 Nick Heidfeld
17 TBA (Jacques Villeneuve)
MF1 Racing (Midland, formerly Jordan)
18 Tiago Monteiro
19 Christijan Albers
Scuderia Toro Rosso (formerly Minardi)
20 TBA
21 TBA
(Liuzzi and Speed, but not necessarily in that order)
2006 Formula One World Championship entry list
Mild Seven Renault
1 Fernando Alonso
2 Giancarlo Fisichella
(sponsor TBA) McLaren Mercedes
3 Kimi Raikkonen
4 Juan Pablo Montoya
Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro
5 Michael Schumacher
6 Felipe Massa
Panasonic Toyota Racing
7 Ralf Schumacher
8 Jarno Trulli
WilliamsF1 Team
9 Mark Webber
10 Nico Rosberg
Lucky Strike Honda Racing F1 Team
11 Rubens Barrichello
12 Jenson Button
Red Bull Racing
14 David Coulthard
15 Christian Klien
BMW Sauber F1 Team
16 Nick Heidfeld
17 TBA (Jacques Villeneuve)
MF1 Racing (Midland, formerly Jordan)
18 Tiago Monteiro
19 Christijan Albers
Scuderia Toro Rosso (formerly Minardi)
20 TBA
21 TBA
(Liuzzi and Speed, but not necessarily in that order)
Sadly F-1 is now down to 9 entries (one team having both an A and B squad- or as the more cynical among us might say a B and C squad). New blood ain't a commin' not with the huge amount of bling that must be ante-ed up beforehand. Spa promoter is bankrupt, Monza in danger of court ordered exclusion, Indy sabotaged in '05 and Bernie is more interested in securing his billions through new "ownership" games; all while MadMax presides over a crumbling empire. Looks a lot like Nero fiddling as Rome burns. "Course Nero was the pyromaniac in the first place who caused all the chaos and decay.
He's ba-aack
So far so good

SCHU RETURNS IN STYLE
Last Updated: Friday, 16, December, 2005, 11:33
Michael Schumacher put an early spin behind him to set the testing pace on his return to the Ferrari cockpit at Jerez on Thursday.
Significantly, the German was faster aboard a V8-powered F2004 than team-mate Felipe Massa in a F2005 equipped with a restricted V10 engine.
So far in winter testing, regulated V10s have had a clear advantage over V8 units.
But Schumacher broke the mould and reported that the new power unit was more enjoyable than he had expected.
Massa wound up second fastest, 0.1s adrift of Schumacher and just ahead of Renault duo Franck Montagny and Heikki Kovalainen, who continued to run detuned V10s and evaluated tyre compounds and constructions with Michelin.
“We had another productive day, once again completing a high mileage with both drivers,” said Renault’s chief test engineer Christian Silk.
“The car continues to look competitive in simulated V8 configuration, and we made good progress with our tyre development.”
Anthony Davidson was fifth quickest in Honda’s concept car, but his deficit of the best part of a second to Schumacher’s Ferrari – in similar V8 trim – suggests the Japanese manufacturer still has work to do.
Honda young driver Adam Carroll accumulated more valuable mileage and trailed Davidson by just 0.3s.
McLaren’s day was interrupted by an engine blow-up on Juan Pablo Montoya’s car shortly before lunch, the resultant oil seepage adversely affecting subsequent lap times.
The Colombian returned to action later in the day and posted the seventh best time behind Ricardo Zonta’s Toyota TF106.
Williams was in the wars with an engine failure afflicting Nico Rosberg and unspecified mechanical problems consigning Mark Webber to the bottom of the charts.
Meanwhile Nick Heidfeld’s day was curtailed by a defective exhaust pipe that burned the back of his BMW-Sauber and could not be fixed in the afternoon.
Thursday testing times from Jerez
[FONT='Courier New']1. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1m18.958s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']2. MASSA Ferrari 1m19.059s*[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']3. MONTAGNY Renault 1m19.066s*[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']4. KOVALAINEN Renault 1m19.100s*[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']5. DAVIDSON Honda 1m19.877s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']6. ZONTA Toyota 1m20.035s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']7. MONTOYA McLaren 1m20.168s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']8. CARROLL Honda 1m20.170s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']9. PANIS Toyota 1m20.342s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']10. DE LA ROSA McLaren 1m20.492s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']11. ROSBERG Williams 1m20.597s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']12. HEIDFELD BMW-Sauber 1m20.710s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']13. WEBBER Williams 1m21.453s
* restricted V10 engine[/FONT]

SCHU RETURNS IN STYLE
Last Updated: Friday, 16, December, 2005, 11:33

Michael Schumacher put an early spin behind him to set the testing pace on his return to the Ferrari cockpit at Jerez on Thursday.Significantly, the German was faster aboard a V8-powered F2004 than team-mate Felipe Massa in a F2005 equipped with a restricted V10 engine.
So far in winter testing, regulated V10s have had a clear advantage over V8 units.
But Schumacher broke the mould and reported that the new power unit was more enjoyable than he had expected.
Massa wound up second fastest, 0.1s adrift of Schumacher and just ahead of Renault duo Franck Montagny and Heikki Kovalainen, who continued to run detuned V10s and evaluated tyre compounds and constructions with Michelin.
“We had another productive day, once again completing a high mileage with both drivers,” said Renault’s chief test engineer Christian Silk.
“The car continues to look competitive in simulated V8 configuration, and we made good progress with our tyre development.”
Anthony Davidson was fifth quickest in Honda’s concept car, but his deficit of the best part of a second to Schumacher’s Ferrari – in similar V8 trim – suggests the Japanese manufacturer still has work to do.
Honda young driver Adam Carroll accumulated more valuable mileage and trailed Davidson by just 0.3s.
McLaren’s day was interrupted by an engine blow-up on Juan Pablo Montoya’s car shortly before lunch, the resultant oil seepage adversely affecting subsequent lap times.
The Colombian returned to action later in the day and posted the seventh best time behind Ricardo Zonta’s Toyota TF106.
Williams was in the wars with an engine failure afflicting Nico Rosberg and unspecified mechanical problems consigning Mark Webber to the bottom of the charts.
Meanwhile Nick Heidfeld’s day was curtailed by a defective exhaust pipe that burned the back of his BMW-Sauber and could not be fixed in the afternoon.
Thursday testing times from Jerez
[FONT='Courier New']1. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1m18.958s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']2. MASSA Ferrari 1m19.059s*[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']3. MONTAGNY Renault 1m19.066s*[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']4. KOVALAINEN Renault 1m19.100s*[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']5. DAVIDSON Honda 1m19.877s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']6. ZONTA Toyota 1m20.035s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']7. MONTOYA McLaren 1m20.168s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']8. CARROLL Honda 1m20.170s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']9. PANIS Toyota 1m20.342s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']10. DE LA ROSA McLaren 1m20.492s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']11. ROSBERG Williams 1m20.597s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']12. HEIDFELD BMW-Sauber 1m20.710s[/FONT]
[FONT='Courier New']13. WEBBER Williams 1m21.453s
* restricted V10 engine[/FONT]
Alonso to McLaren in '07
That was a bit of a surprise. So, obviously, either Juan Pablo or Kimi has to go. It's been a long-standing rumor that Kimi has a Ferrari contract for '07, though that's a bit of a confused situation since who knows what Schumacher will want to do and Ferrari clearly has an interest in Valentino Rossi, too.
Mark
Mark
Originally Posted by MarkS
That was a bit of a surprise. So, obviously, either Juan Pablo or Kimi has to go. It's been a long-standing rumor that Kimi has a Ferrari contract for '07, though that's a bit of a confused situation since who knows what Schumacher will want to do and Ferrari clearly has an interest in Valentino Rossi, too.
Mark
Mark
Wow, that is interesting news 
How could Renault let him go? Probably not enough sponsorship dollars to pay him Jenson or Schuey dollars.
Of course it was plain to see that McLaren was kicking Renault butt in terms of speed this season.
The next two seasons should be great with hopefully Red Bull, Toyota, Honda and Sauber in the mix for race victories.

How could Renault let him go? Probably not enough sponsorship dollars to pay him Jenson or Schuey dollars.
Of course it was plain to see that McLaren was kicking Renault butt in terms of speed this season.
The next two seasons should be great with hopefully Red Bull, Toyota, Honda and Sauber in the mix for race victories.
I think I'd keep Kimi over Alonso if I were Ron Dennis. Kimi seems to be a better driver, and not much older than Fernando. However, if I were a sponsor, I would prefer the gregarious Spaniard to the mumble-mouthed Finn, and I assume that is a significant factor for any F1 team.
On-again/off-again Spa race is off again for 2006
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.a...34880&PO=34880
There will be no Belgian Grand Prix at Spa-Francorchamps this season, according to a prominent local politician.
Serge Kubla, Wallonia’s former economics minister, told Belgian radio station Bel-RTL that he has been notified by Bernie Ecclestone’s office that the race will not go ahead.
Spa’s place on the calendar has been in jeopardy since the race promoter Didier Defourney Grand Prix filed for bankruptcy last year.
But there were reports two weeks ago that Ecclestone – who had previously insisted the regional government was obliged to guarantee the loss-making race until 2010 – was close to agreeing a new three-year deal to safeguard the event.
Kubla claims the race, which was scheduled to take place on 17 September, has been struck from the calendar because the necessary upgrade of the pit and paddock complex could not be completed in time.
Kubla, whose Mouvement Reformateur coalition is now in opposition, blamed the incumbent government for failing to take action early enough.
“They left it until the last moment,” he said. “They reacted too late and started negotiations for a new contract when that wasn’t the main problem.”
It is understood negotiations are still in progress to try and secure the race’s future for 2007 and beyond.
Serge Kubla, Wallonia’s former economics minister, told Belgian radio station Bel-RTL that he has been notified by Bernie Ecclestone’s office that the race will not go ahead.
Spa’s place on the calendar has been in jeopardy since the race promoter Didier Defourney Grand Prix filed for bankruptcy last year.
But there were reports two weeks ago that Ecclestone – who had previously insisted the regional government was obliged to guarantee the loss-making race until 2010 – was close to agreeing a new three-year deal to safeguard the event.
Kubla claims the race, which was scheduled to take place on 17 September, has been struck from the calendar because the necessary upgrade of the pit and paddock complex could not be completed in time.
Kubla, whose Mouvement Reformateur coalition is now in opposition, blamed the incumbent government for failing to take action early enough.
“They left it until the last moment,” he said. “They reacted too late and started negotiations for a new contract when that wasn’t the main problem.”
It is understood negotiations are still in progress to try and secure the race’s future for 2007 and beyond.
F1 has become a joke
F1 without Spa is like CART without the Indianapolis 500....
A Joke!
Race dates going to tobacco friendly, Muslem and Comunist countries.
What's next the Grand Prix of Cuba?..... Grand Prix of Iraq or Iran?
A Joke!
Race dates going to tobacco friendly, Muslem and Comunist countries.
What's next the Grand Prix of Cuba?..... Grand Prix of Iraq or Iran?
Originally Posted by DrDiff
What's next the Grand Prix of Cuba?..... Grand Prix of Iraq or Iran?
At this point, keeping Spa on the calendar is an emotional, nostalgic notion. It is an awesome track, that is certain, but the same layout that thrills the drivers and those of us watching at home must make it incredibly difficult for the event to break even.
The newer tracks all have one thing in common (other than being boring, uninspired, sanitized, etc.): they have huge spectator stadiums on the start-finish straight and a few turns on either side. The can hold probably 100,000 paying customers. Spa is 4+ miles long, and winds through a forest - hardly conducive to large spectator counts. Add to that the European tobacco-ad ban and F1's continuing reliance on tobacco money, and Spa just doesn't make sense.
That being said, the FIA should pull it's collective head out of its collective backside and subsidize it!
Funny you should mention the Grand Prix of Cuba. There were non-championship GPs there during the end of the Batista dictatorship. In '57 and '58 I believe. The '57 race was won by Juan Manuel Fangio in his Maserati 300S, but he didn't repeat the following year because he was kidnapped by a certain young revolutionary named Fidel Castro. The race was cancelled, Fangio released and a few months later, Batista was history and Castro took over. Of course, he never did get a real championship GP though, must have somethng to do with the unauthorized detention of world champions.
If F1 lets Spa fall by the wayside (and Indy too as of '07) in favor of a "designed" circuit in some turdworld venue, we the collective fanatics of F1 should do the same to Bernie and his circus.
Vote with your Remote!
No Spa, No fans.
If F1 lets Spa fall by the wayside (and Indy too as of '07) in favor of a "designed" circuit in some turdworld venue, we the collective fanatics of F1 should do the same to Bernie and his circus.
Vote with your Remote!
No Spa, No fans.
Originally Posted by GBMINI
It is a shame when, apart from Indi, we had maybe the best (most exciting) season for years, and then they go and change everything again 

I 100% disagree with you, did you watch the season at all? So many races were up in the air until the very end, new teams like Red Bull and Toyota did reasonably well, and there was an epic battle between two up and coming greats, Kimi and Alonso. For me, 2005 was one of the best years since 1993-1995.
Originally Posted by Stevie B
Disagree. 2005 was an F1 joke and the racing was horrible. It will always be remembered as the year that meant nothing.
Originally Posted by Redbird73
I 100% disagree with you, did you watch the season at all? So many races were up in the air until the very end, new teams like Red Bull and Toyota did reasonably well, and there was an epic battle between two up and coming greats, Kimi and Alonso. For me, 2005 was one of the best years since 1993-1995.
Originally Posted by trackster
I liked last year a whole lot better than the red machine runaway the year before.
John
John



