F-1 Discussion Thread - 2005 Season
Originally Posted by Coop d'etat
If the FIA is worried about the skyrocketing expenses they could have easily just put a limit on the amount a team could spend every year.
I don't know that the expense of F1 is really a problem, but if it is, changing the rules every year plays into the hands of the teams with the most money to spend on developing new solutions to the new rules, not teams with lower budgets.
Personally, I'd like to see cars with less downforce - they would certainly be prettier to look at, and would probably place more emphasis on driver skill - but that would seem to be a safety hazard given the power the engines are developing.
Originally Posted by Redbird73
Aero- Most teams have clawed back almost all they lost, it remains to be seen if the new aero makes it easier to pass. With normal tires, it might, but not with long life tires.

Bee:
They have been reducing downforce every year for the past 3 years I think. Personally I think that every time they do, thats when the cars start looking crazy. Example: http://www.formula-one.net/pics05/velke/06-03-6b.jpg (The pic is huge and I dont feel like resizing.) The 'viking' wing on the west mercedes mclaren.
Perhaps Im wrong. Perhaps this will be the best season weve seen to date. But...Ferrari is still going to spend hundreds of million more than most teams, they are still going to have Bridgestone designing tires specificaly for their car...unless you change THOSE rules...not much is going to change in F1.
Originally Posted by Coop d'etat
They have been reducing downforce every year for the past 3 years I think. Personally I think that every time they do, thats when the cars start looking crazy.
Originally Posted by Coop d'etat
Perhaps Im wrong. Perhaps this will be the best season weve seen to date. But...Ferrari is still going to spend hundreds of million more than most teams, they are still going to have Bridgestone designing tires specificaly for their car...unless you change THOSE rules...not much is going to change in F1.
Originally Posted by letsmotor
I agree. With the fastest tyres, the drivers can go all out during each session and each stint of the race. That is what F1 is all about. Fill that sucker up with fuel and get rid of those temperamental fuel rigs. If I want a endurance race I will watch LeMans, Daytona, Spa, Sebring etc.
Why do the tyres look like donuts? Why can't they have low profile slicks?

Why do the tyres look like donuts? Why can't they have low profile slicks?


By only using one set of tires per race, they are advancing the tire technology. In a year or two, they'll have tires that have the same grip as the 'short stint' tires from last year, that run the entire race. I think the situation now, where the drivers have to take care of their tires, adds to the skill required.
And there were certainly enough tire failures last year to make me think that this can only be safer, not more dangerous.
Also, the tires are 'donuts' due to a limit on wheel size. However, the teams use that large sidewall as a suspension component. Watch the super slow motion replays while the cars go over the rumble strips. The sidewall flex is a large percentage of the total suspension travel!
On JV. It took Fisichella a good half of the year last year before he was outperforming Massa. I hope they give JV at least that long to prove himself. Right now, he looks bad.
Originally Posted by YellowMiniS
Also, the tires are 'donuts' due to a limit on wheel size.
Interesting opinions, but what else would I expect from this crowd. I personally would love to see the elimination of aerodynamic aids (wings, downforce enhancing body "extras", etc.) but as this is prime sponsor real estate, I don't think it'll happen. No more aero, but bring back all the mechanical grip you can muster: wide rims, racing slicks, active suspension. Get rid of re-fueling, let the teams decide if they want to be fast at the beginning or end of the race as the dynamics change through lightened fuel load, and the kicker, bring back the forced-induction option, say how about a 1.6 ltr. supercharged or turbocharged unit, that would have to last four race weekends rather than the two that naturally aspirated engines of today's formula do.
As to JV, he's a racer like his old man. Give him time to get back in the saddle and properly motivated. If Ferrari is now playing mid-pack, you can't expect much more from the Ferrari Jr. team: Sauber.
As to JV, he's a racer like his old man. Give him time to get back in the saddle and properly motivated. If Ferrari is now playing mid-pack, you can't expect much more from the Ferrari Jr. team: Sauber.
Just playing devil's advocate for a moment, but it seems what we really want is for all the drivers and teams to step into the Formula One junior series 
Formula 3000 was the old name but I think it has a new look this year. I don't know all the details. You have control slick lower profile tyres, a pleasing aero package without winglets everywhere, a few spec cars to choose from, and a budget that is relatively low
But that would not be "Formula One"....so on with the bitchin


Formula 3000 was the old name but I think it has a new look this year. I don't know all the details. You have control slick lower profile tyres, a pleasing aero package without winglets everywhere, a few spec cars to choose from, and a budget that is relatively low
But that would not be "Formula One"....so on with the bitchin


This year it is called GP2.
Also, there is an American, Scott Speed, who so far has been fastest in testing in the GP 2 cars.
He is part of the Red Bull program, and tested the Red Bull f1 car (actually last year's Jag, to be specific) earlier today.
Also, there is an American, Scott Speed, who so far has been fastest in testing in the GP 2 cars.
He is part of the Red Bull program, and tested the Red Bull f1 car (actually last year's Jag, to be specific) earlier today.
Originally Posted by YellowMiniS
This year it is called GP2.

Back to F1...no wings, all tires...not for me...you take the wings from these cars and the speed would be sooo slow, you might as well watch NASCAR on a road course.
I will be sitting back and letting it play out this season...so far so good, but we will see in Bahrain.
Originally Posted by adame
Breaking news
The Lirpa-1 team will be entering two cars in the next race and have been turning better times on the test tracks than Ferrari all season so far.
The Lirpa-1 team will be entering two cars in the next race and have been turning better times on the test tracks than Ferrari all season so far.
Originally Posted by sndwave
Breaking news
The Lirpa-1 team will be entering two cars in the next race and have been turning better times on the test tracks than Ferrari all season so far.
The Lirpa-1 team will be entering two cars in the next race and have been turning better times on the test tracks than Ferrari all season so far.
Sounds like an April Fool's joke to me...:smile:
Originally Posted by bee1000n
I saw that! Can't believe they got Nigel Mansell and Alain Prost to come out of retirement. They've been practicing on some private track for the past year to get up to speed with the latest F1 cars. I can't wait to see how they do.
They're Here!!!!!!!!
My precious, precious tix for the F-1 circus, Indianapolis edition, arrived today!
Another pit lane walkabout is scheduled for Thursday June 16th. (Note from the cognoscenti: This is the effin' best part of the whole week-end: In past years we've gotten autographs from Fernando Alonso, Jarno Trulli, Alan McNish, Bob Varsha, David Hobbs, and more.)
My MINI car corral pass for race day arrived too. Hope to see y'all there.
I'll be in Blubelle, sittin' pretty in Stand J and dressed as the Schumacher fanatic that I am.
Woo Hoo!!!
Another pit lane walkabout is scheduled for Thursday June 16th. (Note from the cognoscenti: This is the effin' best part of the whole week-end: In past years we've gotten autographs from Fernando Alonso, Jarno Trulli, Alan McNish, Bob Varsha, David Hobbs, and more.)
My MINI car corral pass for race day arrived too. Hope to see y'all there.
I'll be in Blubelle, sittin' pretty in Stand J and dressed as the Schumacher fanatic that I am.
Woo Hoo!!!


