Hello

Any clue why the STOP button would not shut down the car after a short 2 minute drive? It happened on two occasions today... I park the car, press the stop button, and nothing happens. One or two more tries, and the engine finally shuts down.

It was a very hot day and the air con was on full blast.

Am i missing something?

Thanks!

 

Stupid question from me - was your foot on the brake? I've had mine inadvertently restarted after a couple of flicks of the start stop when I forgot to lift my foot after the first.

 

In hot-hot weather the fan will continue to operate for a short while after the engine is turned off. Could this be what's happening?

 

No i made sure of that

 

Not sure. It felt to me like nothing happened after i pressed the button. The air con even continued blasting away.

 

This has happened to me a few times as well. Car just would not turn off. No clutch in, no foot on brake. Frustrating in that I cannot reproduce it.

 

This also happened to me, my foot was off the brake I popped the trunk and then attempted to shut the car off and it would not. I then tried it again and still nothing. I waited about 30 seconds and then finally it turned off. So when I took my car to the dealer the next day to have another issue fixed, I asked that they look into this issue also. Of course as they were not able to recreate it they found nothing. But it has not happened again.

 

Ha! I almost posted this issue the other day but figured I was just a Mini nube. Stopped to get gas, turned car off and filled tank. Wife went inside to restroom. I finished filling and moved the car away from the pumps and far from the busy building. Went inside to get a drink and when we came out together, the car was quietly running! I had the key fob in my pocket the whole time, and although I thought I had locked the doors, they were unlocked. Lucky for me it was away from the activity in a small town, or someone could have driven it off. And with a full tank of gas! I was surprised it would keep going without the fob nearby.

Lesson learned: when I park, I put the car in neutral, set the brake, take my foot off the clutch, and give the toggle two distinct clicks. Seems to shut everything down pretty securely. Then I exit and lock the doors with the fob to make certain all inside lights have gone out. Not since Herbie has a small car like this had a mind of its own.

 

How hot was it? Do you have comfort access?

 

It might have been hot. We'd been on the road a couple hours, so maybe it was trying to cool down. I don't have Comfort Access but that would explain the unlocked doors. It may or may not be a real issue, but everyone should be alert to the possibility.

 

It happened to me 3-4 times (my MINI is only 3 weeks old). It seems to be randomly as I'm unable to reproduce it.

 

I've had my car since mid May and this happened to me for the first time yesterday. The only difference to every other time driving it is that I had the air conditioning running (100% sure this is the first time the air was running when I tried to shut down the car, it's been a cool summer here and I've never used it before). It was also in green mode, but that's normal for me.

 

The only way to know for sure is ask MINI. However, a few manufacturers have programmed the computer to not shut down the car until certain parameters are met. I saw one chevy (fairly new), that the engine and cooling fan ran for a short period after shut off, removal of key, and locking the car. Some cars have the fans to continue running until certain temps are met. Being as this car has a turbo, I would not be surprised if BMW hasn't programmed the computer to not shut off the car until certain parameters are met.

I know that I can unlock my door, remove something from the car and then shut the door - never locking it using the key fob. Come back a few minutes later and the car is locked and I have to unlock it again.

By the way, both of my minis (2014) cooper S does the same thing....sometimes have to wait a minute and shut it off again as the first try don't work.

 

I was just talking today on the phone with my dealer about this an hour ago ... he'd called to ask how the car was. I mentioned this and that I'd posted on NAM about this issue and others were noticing it too.

Learned a few things: 1. my dealer hadn't heard this reported yet from any F56 drivers.
2. The dealer wants me to come in so they can play around and find out what's going on. They seemed curious about what conditions could be causing it and see if they could come up with guides on what to do if others report the issue.

I've had the issue four times now. Three times were in green mode. It was also afternoon and early evening, and at least 100*. Each time took two or three attempts to turn it off.

Last time it happened -- last night -- it was about 95* and the car was in sport mode. That was also the first time it took five attempts to get it to shut off. We were also at the most humid we've been ... and I was on the edge of some really bad flooding, so not normal weather for us, but I also find it hard to believe a British car can't deal with wet weather...

When work calms down in a week or so, I promised to go in to my dealer so they can see if they can try to learn anything about this. Car has about 500 miles on the clock right now.

 

I had a 2007 in Arizona and never once did the engine fail to shut off. My JCW fan runs more than the MCS did and I attribute that to the bigger turbocharger. BTW I don't live in Phoenix but it gets in the 90s here. Car should shut off when you shut it off. Every time. To do otherwise would be dangerous. Let the battery run the stupid fan.

 

Having just talked to one of the dealers in the PHX area, it doesn't seem to be outside temperature related. Mine was the first car they'd heard of the problem with.

The start/stop when you are, say, at a red light often won't trigger in high temps, but that's because the car won't start/stop if it needs to keep actively blowing the a/s to keep the inside at desired temps. My car's inside temps are set at 19* and I've noticed that when the outside temps are around 31.5 that start/stop seems to often be deactivated for traffic stopping.

But that's a completely different set of situations from when the car's in park and you're trying to completely turn off the vehicle.

 

Count me in this growing group as well.

I've had my 2014 Hardtop S (manual tranny) about 3 weeks. First time it wouldn't shut off with the toggle was when I bought it & the sales dude was showing me all the functions & features. He saw it happen, told me to let him know if it happens again. I haven't let him know but will soon.

I've had about a half dozen times when it wouldn't shut off. The latest was about 10 minutes ago when I got to work.

Here is what I've tried at various times.
All cases were with; foot on break, car in neutral, emergency brake off.

- clutch in = shuts off
- clutch in = does not shut off
- clutch out = shuts off
- clutch out = does not shut off
So apparently clutch in or out doesn't make a difference.

As I was sitting there wondering what to try next, and it was the first time I had the radio off, I heard an electronic whirr from behind the dash (like feeding a cd into a player). Tried it again and it shut off.
I think there is a connection between the whir & the response, just don't know what was whirring.

One thing I didn't pay attention to is if the "Auto Stop/Start" toggle was on or off. It was off this morning.

I agree with a previous poster. If the car/engine is hot, let the fans stay on until all is good. I love my Mini (my first) but if I have to wait around until it's says it's ready to shut off then I'm going to have to start planning extra travel time & leave home earlier

Maybe my Mini was trying to tell me it's Friday and it's too nice to go to work. It almost convinced me.

I have two other little issues I'll post separate (steering right vibration, windows not up all the way).
Later

 

Correct me of I am wrong, is this issue only happening with Manulal Transmissions or is it also happening with Automatic Transmissions ?

 

Automatics as well, its happened to my wife a few times now.

 

IMO this problem has nothing to do with cooling anything. It's not normal for you not to be able to turn off the engine! That's not safe either. Some guy's car was spewing oil all over under the hood and smoking (some defective housing thing). What if he couldn't shut off the engine? This is a problem unique to this model because I've been on NAM for 7-8 years and this is the first I've heard about it. Heck one guy took his fob out of the car and left it running lol.They gotta fix this somehow.

 

mine's an automatic.

i'm thinking this is a software issue of some sort.

also, regarding fans: my R53 (06 MCS) would engage the high speed engine fan if I was either idling or parked and it still needed to cool the engine ... it could engage the high-speed engine fan for 3-5 minutes, even after the key was out the ignition. when my water pump and low speed engine fan were starting to go on that car, I remember coming back from the mailbox and the high speed fan had come on, which was my warning that the cooling system needed to be looked at soon. So I wonder if the F56 model can do that as well ... if the temp were hot after running, wouldn't a fan just kick in even after shutting off like on at least one previous model? i don't think the car would just refuse to shut off because of the engine needing to keep the fan on.

 

I'm sure this issue (which I've experienced in my S auto -- put my foot on the brake seems to do the trick) is related to another I see from time to time.

Come to a stop, engine auto-stops. Put it in park pull the brake, open the door. 90% of the time the car goes to actually off. 10% of the time the engine starts back up.

 

Variable may be emergency brake being activated?

 

GREENTEA, which PHX dealer did you talk with? I got mine at Mini Scottsdale and will be touching base with them on this. I'm curious to know if someone reported this before I talk to them.

 

I know in my case I only engage emergency brake after shutting off engine. No reason, just my pattern.