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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 02:34 PM
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Annoying Discovery About Comfort Access

I have Comfort Access and I carry my fob in my purse.

I had my son with me today and had to pick up his textbooks from school. Once we were done, I went to the car and opened the boot, dropped the textbooks in the back, and also put my purse back there since my son had been stepping on it when I had it on the floor of the passenger side and I didn't want him doing that anymore. I then closed the boot and walked over to the door and tried to open the door with the button on the door handle.

It would not open. I went back to the boot and tried to open it, and...it wouldn't open. Luckily, my son had his cellphone in his pocket because I had to call my husband to bring the other key fob to open the car. My phone was in my purse, which was locked in the boot.

Now, I had the same kind of keyless access on my Veloster, and I used to drop my purse in the trunk/hatch all the time. I never had an issue because as long as the key fob was near or in the car, I could open it.

Just wanted to share this because I never would have expected the car to lock me out like that, and I am sure many others wouldn't expect it, either.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Heifzilla
I have Comfort Access and I carry my fob in my purse.

I had my son with me today and had to pick up his textbooks from school. Once we were done, I went to the car and opened the boot, dropped the textbooks in the back, and also put my purse back there since my son had been stepping on it when I had it on the floor of the passenger side and I didn't want him doing that anymore. I then closed the boot and walked over to the door and tried to open the door with the button on the door handle.

It would not open. I went back to the boot and tried to open it, and...it wouldn't open. Luckily, my son had his cellphone in his pocket because I had to call my husband to bring the other key fob to open the car. My phone was in my purse, which was locked in the boot.

Now, I had the same kind of keyless access on my Veloster, and I used to drop my purse in the trunk/hatch all the time. I never had an issue because as long as the key fob was near or in the car, I could open it.

Just wanted to share this because I never would have expected the car to lock me out like that, and I am sure many others wouldn't expect it, either.
I don't know but can you change the settings?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 03:34 PM
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I don't have CA but looks like this is how the manufacture set it if you leave it in the trunk. (Manual Page 41)
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 03:37 PM
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Thank you. I wonder if that can be changed. I must've missed that when I read through the manual.

eta: apparently not. Now I know
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 04:11 PM
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I don't have CA but looks like this is how the manufacture set it if you leave it in the trunk. (Manual Page 41)
I agree about the function. What I don't understand is why the trunk locks again when you close it. Seems it should remain unlocked until you either lock it yourself or reach the speed where the whole car locks. If you find how to disable the trunk auto-locking like this I'd like to know about how?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 06:05 PM
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It mentions it in the manual on about six pages in a row, which tells me it was a problem by the time the it went to print.

Users complain and engineers dig in their heels.

You can change the hatch button on the remote so it opens the doors and the hatch.

You would think the fob was close enough to the door that you should have been able to press the button.
 

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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 06:34 PM
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Wow interesting as my 2010 clubby has comfort access and it want lock if a key is in the car. Had my key in my briefcase, grabbed the rear handle opened door, briefcase in back closed door, door locked, then a moment later later everything unlocked.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob4
it want lock if a key is in the car.
It does?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hammerhands
It mentions it in the manual on about six pages in a row, which tells me it was a problem by the time the it went to print.

Users complain and engineers dig in their heels.

You can change the hatch button on the remote so it opens the doors and the hatch.

You would think the fob was close enough to the door that you should have been able to press the button.
Unfortunately, I rarely use the actual remote buttons to unlock the doors, I rely on the proximity and use the buttons on the door handles.

What was also interesting was that even tho the car was *in* the car, I also had to get the fob out of the boot and bring it into the passenger compartment to start the car. It wouldn't start up when the fob was in my purse in the boot. I wonder what causes the issue.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 08:23 PM
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You need to have the dealer check it out, something's wrong.

Mu '09 w/comfort access would automatically reopen the boot if the keys were dropped in the boot. In fact, my salesman made it a point to demonstrate this when the car was delivered.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 08:36 PM
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I experimented with this just now.

I unlocked the boot by using the proximity feature of the remote, not the unlock buttons. I tossed the remote in the boot and closed the hatch. It did NOT lock. I have my car set up to blink once when it locks. When I closed the hatch it blinked several times. I opened the hatch and removed the remote. It locked fine after that.

The boot does lock automatically if it was locked prior to opening and the remote is in your pocket.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Conrad_Thomaier
The boot does lock automatically if it was locked prior to opening and the remote is in your pocket.
I hadn't opened the front doors yet, I just went to the back and opened the boot, tossed in the books and my purse (that contained the fob) and shut the boot. Then I was unable to get into the car because all the doors, and the boot, were locked. Pressing the button on the door, or trying to open the boot again, wouldn't work.

As someone pointed out earlier, it actually says in the manual not to put your fob in the boot because it will lock, I hadn't seen that when I read the manual, but I skipped that part because I figured that since I'd had a proximity fob before, I knew how it worked. My bad.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 11:41 PM
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My car does not lock if the FOB is inside.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jmeryllman
My car does not lock if the FOB is inside.
And neither does the OPs. I had comfort access on my 2007 and did the exact same thing: opened the boot, tossed the thing with the fob in, and it locked my out. Here's why: it takes the car a little time to know the fob is inside the car, unlock the doors. Try it again with the windows open: lock it, open door with button, toss fob in, close quickly. They may stay locked. Now leave fob in for a few seconds and close door. It should unlock the doors.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 02:47 PM
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 04:02 PM
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Thanks for the info, Heifzilla, whether or not your car is acting properly. It's the sort of thing that one might easily do without thinking.

(Sort of like the time my husband tossed in his shorts and shut the trunk on a rental car on a Hawaiian beach...realizing just as it latched that his keys were in the pocket. That was pre-comfort access. Fortunately there was a pay phone nearby. A generous number of 4-letter words were heard at the time, though.)

My own '07 has no comfort access, but does have a peculiar quirk. If you open the driver's door after unlocking the trunk switch (either dash toggle or fob), but then shut the driver's door, the trunk relocks. You don't hear the thing latch, but it's locked all the same. It also won't reopen if the trunk is shut when the rest of the car is locked. We've grown used to it, but I'm very, very careful with the keys when I'm loading groceries. It's 10 miles to the nearest store, so I don't close the trunk unless I'm holding the keys.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 05:36 PM
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Owners manual covers/warns of this. When you unlocked the boot, I'm sure you pushed the button that unlocks ONLY the boot. So, when you threw everything in the boot and shut it, your car is now locked on all accesses.

You must unlock the doors, then the boot, if you intend on doing what you did.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by yardstick57
Owners manual covers/warns of this. When you unlocked the boot, I'm sure you pushed the button that unlocks ONLY the boot. So, when you threw everything in the boot and shut it, your car is now locked on all accesses.

You must unlock the doors, then the boot, if you intend on doing what you did.
Just so everyone knows: I did not use the fob buttons to unlock the boot. Since I have Comfort Access, I do not have to press any buttons on my fob. It works by proximity to the car. What I did was press the button on the boot, which opens the boot. Threw my purse in (that had the fob in it) and shut it. For whatever reason, the boot then locked, and I was unable to open the other doors, either.

It's just very weird, since the whole point of the Comfort Access is that the car recognizes that the fob is near the car and will allow you to open the car WITHOUT PRESSING A KEY ON THE FOB, but when the fob was actually IN the boot, the car refused to allow me to open it, despite the fob being in close proximity (actually IN the car).

My Verloster would *not* allow me to lock the fob in the car, if I tried, it would automatically unlock the driver's door. I thought the Mini would be the same.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 06:52 PM
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Lots of people trying to compare their 2nd Gen experiences with the OP's 3rd Gen issue. It's likely the two generations are set up differently.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 08:11 PM
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I have CA in my F56, Doors locked thru key fob, opened hatch via proximity, threw key fob in boot and closed. Instantly, tail lights flashed 3 sets of two. Hatch left unlocked.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Vilas
I have CA in my F56, Doors locked thru key fob, opened hatch via proximity, threw key fob in boot and closed. Instantly, tail lights flashed 3 sets of two. Hatch left unlocked.
I never use my key fob buttons. I only use the buttons on the door handles. My fob is always in my purse, so I never use the buttons on the fob. My car had been locked via the door handle button. I opened the boot via the door handle on the boot. I couldn't see if the lights flashed, it was bright and sunny at the time.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Vilas
I have CA in my F56, Doors locked thru key fob, opened hatch via proximity, threw key fob in boot and closed. Instantly, tail lights flashed 3 sets of two. Hatch left unlocked.
So here's something interesting.

I just tried to lock my key fob into the car again...and it did the same exact thing as the other day. Opened the boot, threw the fob in, closed the boot. The tail lights flashed ONCE, and it was locked and I couldn't get into the car.

Then, I tried the same thing with my husband's fob. The tail lights flashed THREE times and the boot did NOT lock.

So, this tells me there must be a setting that is different on my fob than on his. I know I changed some lock settings on mine but I don't recall which right now, and he hasn't done anything to his, it's set the same as it was from the dealer.

Interesting.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 08:27 PM
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Every car you buy is going to have something different about how it operates than the car you owned before. If you develop good habits, some of those changes won't reach up and bite you. Never close a door or boot with the key or fob inside and then you'll never have to worry about it again.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by whaap
Every car you buy is going to have something different about how it operates than the car you owned before. If you develop good habits, some of those changes won't reach up and bite you. Never close a door or boot with the key or fob inside and then you'll never have to worry about it again.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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lol
 
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