I want that !!!!

 

+1...

If someone really wants to have this doodad where you control the exhuast sound from your smartphone and just want to pay top dollar to not have to "think about it", I guess this makes sense.

On the other hand, someone could just buy a Dynomax VT muffler and replace the whole resonator/muffler unit with one of those for a whole lot less money....



...Some of the Corvettes come OEM with this type of muffler technology, so it has been out there for a while.

No affiliation with Dynomax, just floating an option out there as food for thought.

 

Anyone use this muffler yet?

 

Bam. Mf reported on it. Seems a bit spendy since you will have to pay install on top of that.

http://www.motoringfile.com/2014/08/...xhaust-wvideo/

 

awesome

 

It's been around for a number of years now. The Mini is new to me but I know a number of people who have used it on domestics as well as some Hondas. You could probably find some clips or something on Youtube. Again, the technology is proven.

Again, Chevy has used the bi-modal exhaust on some of the Corvettes for some time. The technology is nothing new...

http://www.corvettenewsblog.com/tag/...modal-exhaust/

 

As per the MF article, the details are as follows:

• A stainless steel cat-back system – cannot be sold without the engine kit
• Optional Carbon Fiber and Stainless tips with JCW logos
• 15hp Power increase due to ECU remapping and increase flow
• A remote that allows the driver to open and close the electronic baffle inside the exhaust allowing for a more aggressive note when appropriate
• Track mode – opens the exhaust baffle increasing exhaust noise via a button on the remote – not approved for the street
• Estimated pricing: $1,600
• Estimated availability: fall 2014

The big news is that the exhaust is NOT going to be available separately, but instead part of the dealer fit JCW tuning kit.

 

Thanks for posting this info...

Here is my 2-cents, FWIW: I think chasing gains by trying to "fix" the OEM exhaust system of the 2014 Mini will be an like throwing money out the window. There are no major "flaws" in the design of the OEM system. I know because I got under the car and looked. It's essentially a straight pipe, with a resonator in the middle (no restriction), then a turbo-style muffler out back. From a flow perspective, that's about as ideal as you can get. No major bends, curves, or contours in the system. Sure, someone will say that there are two cats and that chokes things. They are probably right but I am sure someone will come out with a test pipe soon enough.

Point being that there is not a whole lot of room for improvement and my feeling is that if you do start removing stuff, all you will get for your trouble (and money) is more noise. There are still so many other airflow choke points that this cat-back won't address: The stock, restrictive intake and airbox, The cast exhaust manifold, etc.

Here is my question: Why spend $1,600 for just a reflash (it appears that this cat-back comes with a reflash of some type since "ECU re-mapping" is mentioned...) that gets you (according to the them...) about 15whp when you could not touch the exhaust system at all and pick up 20-30whp with a Burger Tuning reflash for less than $400? Are those carbon fiber tips and the extra sound worth $1,200? That seems to be the real question.

 

I had the JCW tuning kit package on my old R56 Cooper S (I didn't install it, the original owner did)

I guess the major benefit can be summed it in two words: manufactures warranty!

When you buy a new car you are very much taking a risk playing with the engine unless you go with an OEM option. Some won't be bothered by this, some will.

You also get the famous JCW brand with the tuning kit (if thats your thing)

I will be installing the kit on my car, as for the next 3 years it gives me peace of mind - plus I will admit, I am a sucker for JCW parts!

 

15hp seems lame increase. That engine is so detuned.

 

I think its an OK increase - sure it would be nice to have more…

However, they are not going to want to reduce the power gap between the Cooper S and the Factory JCW anymore than they have done with the introduction of this kit.

There is also the risk of impacting future sales for the FJCW model if they make the JCW tuning kit too powerful!

 

I thought the JCW tune on the R56 was 20+ HP...?

 

JCW Tuning Kits for the R56 were about the same horsepower increase.

 

The R56 was 172 HP and was 192HP with the tune (intake and muffler)...

 

On the German F56 MINI forum there is an internal e-mail that has been spied….. its says:

den klappenauspuff im paket tunjing kit wird es wahrscheinlich ab herbst 2014 geben

er wird ca. 1.700 euro kosten. Das ist aber noch nicht fest.

Es handelt sich um einen klappenschalldampfer und um einen tuning kit.

211 PS
300 NM

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In English, that is:

Fold the exhaust in the packet tunjing kit it is probably from autumn 2014 to give

it will cost about 1,700 euros. But this is not fixed yet.

There is a fold sound absorbers and a tuning kit.

211 hp
300 NM

 

Agreed with the warranty

 

Warranty is king on the f56 for a few years yet.
I plan on getting this system no matter the cost.

 

The 192 figure is BHP which equates to 189 HP, making the gain 17 HP for the N14 engine. The gain for the N18 engine was 16 HP (181 to 197).

Again that's 211 BHP or 208 American ponies

 

Same here

 

The more I read about it, the more it seems that the 15hp (or whatever it was...) gain they are claiming is from the reflash and not from the actual exhaust. The reflash costs really next-to-nothing for BMW, so folks are going to be paying all that money for basically a louder exhaust and some carbon fiber tips. Not for me to tell anyone what to buy or not buy but that's a steep horsepower-to-dollar ratio.

I'm going to pull the airbox apart as soon as I have time and see if I can fit a conical K&N element directly to the inlet duct. Eliminate the entire box. That is basically the same thing that lots of companies offer as an aftermarket "fresh air" kit. Also going to look into pulling out the rubber seal on the rear of the hood and see about letting more heat exit the engine bay. LOL, there could be 10hp right there, for $0.00.

 

Not to derail this thread too much but I just discovered something very interesting: It appears that there is no O2 sensor downstream of the secondary catalytic converter of the F56. The primary and secondary sensors are both located in the first catalytic converter. In other words, there is no OBDII data reporting beyond the primary cat. What this means is that you should be able to entirely remove the secondary cat without the ECU realizing that. An emissions sniffer would probably pick up on it but the ECU won't. A test pipe could be real easy to fit into one of these cars.

 

George 2014 I agree with you up to removing the air box. I'm going to try and retain the box and use a conical filter inside of it. Maybe look for another source of cooler air. The factory exhaust doesn't look all that restrictive. I would put money into a more efficient intercooler and better bypass valve.

 

+1 on the intercooler.

I had the airbox open (as if you were going to change the filter) and from what I saw, seems unlikely that you will be able to fit a conical filter in there. Reason being that the interior contour of the airbox is a negative. You really need to attach it to the snorkel for the "air duct" that runs around the rear of the motor (see attachment below). The IAT sensor is mounted to the airbox, so that would need to be relocated but that should not be a big deal. I am thinking that perhaops there is a Samco or other silicone intake pipe that could make just a slight bend and put K&N a little forward. Something to think about.

 

Nice find. Your curiosity killed this cat!
Second cat decat will probably be a common tune of this car

 

Awesome!
Thanks. I may just add the high flow cat to this car too.