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asecret 10-30-2019 04:05 AM

Retrofitting New LCI UJ Tail Lights
 
Anyone have any experience in retrofitting the new lights? I've purchased the lights and realised that the plugs are different.. some sort of customization is required for the plugs to fit

2017All4 10-30-2019 07:25 AM

Among other changes for 2020, the Union Jack tail lights now function as brake lights.

hoonu 10-31-2019 05:03 AM

@2017All4 probably knows better than me, but in addition to the need to be model year appropriate, my understanding was that getting the UJ tail lights to work involved some (dealer) programming...

Walt 10-31-2019 10:30 AM

I guess a lot depends on from where you are starting. Are your factory tail lights incandescent or LED?

As mentioned, your dealer might need to do some programming ($$$$$$$), but there is also the do-it-yourself approach using the BimmerCode app ($).

ilyart 11-04-2019 05:22 AM

My experience. Clubman 2017 by default all headlights and tail lights are halogen. Retrofitting with new Union Jack lights – new connectors, much deeper programming. Need an adapter between the old connectors and the new light. A difficult question for the encoding - brake lights. By default, they are only in the bumper.

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maaii 11-19-2019 04:35 PM

Hi Sir

I have a question about rear fog lights, the LCI UJ Tail lights seems no rear fog lights.

Where do you retrofit it ? move to bumper of break lights position?

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...b96c15305e.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...2b98dfcb04.jpg

ilyart 11-19-2019 05:53 PM

As I know, LCI UJ has fog lights

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...fca3fc05e.jpeg






Originally Posted by maaii (Post 4505135)
Hi Sir

I have a question about rear fog lights, the LCI UJ Tail lights seems no rear fog lights.

Where do you retrofit it ? move to bumper of break lights position?

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...b96c15305e.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...2b98dfcb04.jpg


maaii 11-19-2019 06:30 PM

OK, thank you. Could you get retrofit guide for UJ Tail lights ? Seems need to code and modify come connectors.

reidmefirst 01-11-2020 07:50 PM

I'm curious about swapping out my tail lights with UJ lights. My car is a 2019, and should (I guess?) have LED tail lights already (it came with option 5A4 LED Headlights, so I wonder if it's safe to assume it has LED tail lights, they are the type with the '.))' shape to the lights).

I found the first pic above came from a shop called Mulgari in the UK, they sell a retrofit kit: https://mulgari.com/shop/exterior-st...-retrofit-kit/ . Their description suggests there is a "fitting kit", I'm guessing this is just an adapter cable, and is only required if the car had halogen tail lights?

I wonder if anyone has tried just buying the new UJ tail lights and swapping them in to a car that already had LED lights...and, what is the actual part number for the UJ tail lights anyway? Haven't been able to find them on the various parts places yet...

ECSTuning 02-05-2020 07:04 AM

Looks like only the one side is available in the USA right now from MINI, if we find an aftermarket solution we will let you know.

63217477635 left,
63217477636 right https://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Sit...h/63217477636/

You will not find any part numbers on REALOEM anymore as they will not update for the 2020+ LCI as we know of( they have all the pre 2020 stuff. So you can reach out to us and we can dig them up other ways. .

maaii 02-06-2020 10:11 PM

Hi all

I have problem with retrofitting union jack tail. the turn indicator will pop up error and blink first on the first time.

How could i code for this issue ?

https://imgur.com/kcdRPmw



reidmefirst 02-07-2020 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by maaii (Post 4518478)
Hi all

I have problem with retrofitting union jack tail. the turn indicator will pop up error and blink first on the first time.

How could i code for this issue ?

https://imgur.com/kcdRPmw

Not sure...did you have halogen or LED lights before the upgrade, and did the UJ tail light have the same connector as your original?

I know that for the F56 LED swap, the "cold" and "warm" monitoring for both LED brake lights had to be disabled, in addition to actually setting them to LED...

maaii 02-09-2020 12:28 AM

Problem solve. I made two adapter cables to retrofit UJ Tail Lights. It's so easy to do.

After coding, no error message pop up.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...e4632e6d0f.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...325a6636c7.jpg
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reidmefirst 02-09-2020 08:37 AM

Nice! So was it just coding out the temperature detection for the brake bulbs?

And can you say what connectors go on the wiring harnesses?

maaii 02-09-2020 04:46 PM

Hi Sir

Yes, you need to code from bulb to LED specification. Connectors are from china vendor.
I got some sample to test but I don't know the part number.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...da34401c82.jpg

ECSTuning 02-10-2020 06:56 AM

Awesome, Do you have the oem part numbers from MINI for those?

maaii 02-10-2020 08:29 PM

Hi Sir

I don't have part numbers from Mini, this is my handmade retrofit kit.

PM me if you like.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...435f53e082.jpg

sambir 02-11-2020 12:28 PM

I am wondering if you also need these adapters when you already have full led lights. And when fitted if the break lights in the bumper move to the inside.

maaii 02-11-2020 04:47 PM

Change Brake lights and fog lights on BDC_ECU side. The fog lights will on bumper.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...0dfbeb37af.jpg

sambir 02-11-2020 05:05 PM

What about, when you open the doors, do the lights in the bumper then still go on? this is a safety feature so the car is still visible when the doors are open. Does it still work after this mod?

and what about the emergency brakes feature. Does that also still work? I had the Mini F55 cooper s and i installed LCI lights on that model also, I had to do allot of coding to make sure all features worked still. Especially emergency breaking part.

@maaii Please be kind to create a small tutorial, step by step. What adaptations did you do in Esys/bimmercode? What is the final product? is it like OEM? Do all features work?

maaii 02-11-2020 05:42 PM

What about, when you open the doors, do the lights in the bumper then still go on? this is a safety feature so the car is still visible when the doors are open. Does it still work after this mod?

------> Yes, use fdl coding can solve this issue. Please check the pic as below.

All function works and without error. only fog light on bumper is different with LCI.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...66fc6f28ce.png

fog light
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...bb645da4ef.jpg

reveresing lights
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...8ca54e532c.jpg

Brake lights
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...a0ceb8dadf.jpg

Turn indicator
https://imgur.com/Km9ia9s



sambir 02-12-2020 12:48 AM

So on bdc what did you do exactly? Moved pins from
A258*2B To A258*5B? I dont understand that part.

maaii 02-12-2020 01:38 AM

Hi Sir

It's very simple, the original brake light is on bumper and fog light is on upper Taillight. You need to swap two Pin define on BDC ECU.


sambir 02-12-2020 02:30 AM

So there seems to be an official retrofit kit
partnr: 63132473459 anyone known with this?

bimmercat:
https://bimmercat.com/bmw/nl/parts/i...ft/63132473459

kit seems to include lights and only a manual 😅

can someone download and share this manual? (maybe its not available yet?) partnr: 01292473552

ECSTuning 02-12-2020 06:00 AM

Looks like a euro kit and not available in the USA yet

Looks like its the taillights and then wires/plugs for conversion. One of the wires is not available on its own yet. Not out yet.


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