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Old 02-28-2017, 06:34 AM
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Yeah they just have screws holding them in from the back. You can take that plate out and make into a bracket to hold the new projectors in, or make a new bracket. I really do recommend buying some of the mentioned halogen bulbs I suggested and see how you like them first before doing a projector swap first though
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 07:03 AM
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Sounds great, I'll be looking into doing a swap soon then.
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by X757XVeritas View Post
Yeah they just have screws holding them in from the back. You can take that plate out and make into a bracket to hold the new projectors in, or make a new bracket. I really do recommend buying some of the mentioned halogen bulbs I suggested and see how you like them first before doing a projector swap first though
What size projectors did you swap into the Helix housings? H7 2.5 inch? Would like to make a list prior to doing all of this to make sure I have the right stuff
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 07:29 AM
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H7 is a halogen bulb size. I'm using depo housings and acme h1 bi-xenon projectors, yes acme is a brand lol
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 07:50 AM
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These are the projectors I use for my retrofits.

Due to the low price they are often sold out though

https://www.theretrofitsource.com/co...andard-h1.html
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 07:51 AM
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Oops small mistake, H7 are the high beams haha, I have an 03 MCS, doesn't it take D2R for the low beam? Or is D2R and H1 compatible like 9007 and 9004 are (with 1 wire being moved)
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 07:53 AM
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The factory Xenon lights do yes. But you won't be using any of the factory HID components. You will need to purchase aftermarket ballast and wire harness and new bulbs for the new projectors.

Basically you are unplugging the big connector from the factory housing and will not be re using any of the old stuff after that when using the Depo housings.
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 07:54 AM
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Post a pic of the housings you want to use and I will give you a list of everything to get
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 07:56 AM
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Where are you located as well, if you happen to live close I can help out with everything
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 07:57 AM
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I'll be using https://www.ecstuning.com/b-helix-pa...ini01hl-b~hlx/ these housings, as I'm blacking the car out. I currently have xenon headlights with washers, thanks for the help sorry for the confusion also haha, I live in PA, about an hour from Philadelphia
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 07:58 AM
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No confusion. Just making sure I give you the right advice, and I'm down in Va, that's a bit far lol. But I will get a list together for you tonight of what to buy
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 08:04 AM
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Awesome! Thanks a ton! Feel free to pm me also, I will probably be pming you with more questions haha
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 08:08 AM
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Unless there is anything personal let's keep posting here to add to the information if someone else stumbles upon this thread
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 08:22 AM
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Sounds fine to me, thanks for the help
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 06:24 PM
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What housing did you have in your car before you swapped to these housings? I want to do the swap, but am unsure how it will go from the xenon stock housings with headlight washer
My car currently still has the headlight washer tubes. I just unplugged them and tucked them up into the hood of the car. And of course the headlight washer fluid is empty so none of it leaks into the engine bay. I definitely like the way these headlights look better and to be honest i never even used the headlight washer function. Seems pointless to me lol
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 06:31 PM
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Damn tons of great info Veritas!! Yea i guess i never realized that there are halogen projectors as well as HID projectors lol. Well at some point ill have to look into converting those Depo headlights. I guess i'm still unsure as well what would go into that though.
 
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Old 02-28-2017, 08:51 PM
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Go back to post #30 for a link to the projectors to fit in the Depo housings, on page 1 I also posted to great high output halogen bulbs as well
 
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Old 03-01-2017, 05:24 PM
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Awesome thanks! so when installing this new set up the ballast will still be on the outside of the headlight housing correct? thats one concern of mine is not having the headlight be entirely water tight. I would prefer not to risk drilling a hole in the back to allow the wires to feed through for a HID.
 
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Old 03-01-2017, 06:17 PM
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You will have to drill a hole and run wires through. I used a rubber grommet and sealed the edge of it with silicone.
 
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:13 PM
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Okay, so I'm a bit confused at this moment. What style connector is used for the low beam (factory xenon) since you said we'll be using an H1 projector, obviously we'll be needing an H1 style HID kit. But what style is the connector the Hid kit will plug into?

I understand the high beam uses an H7 plug, but what does the low beam use? H1 style? Or are we completely swapping to a different plug style?
 
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Old 03-02-2017, 03:33 AM
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I'll take some pictures this weekend, still need to make the list for you
 
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:31 PM
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So I can't just use H7 bulbs in a projector with my car that came with hid's? Im guessing I'll have to program it? I really don't want to "Make" my own bracket or drill anything out.
 
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:40 PM
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H7 is a halogen bulb size. If you have projectors that use h7 they are halogen projectors. Yes companies sell h7 HID bulbs but they are just re based cheap Chinese HID bulbs made to fit in the halogen projector.

An HID bulb puts out far more uv and will burn the lining out of a halogen projector eventually which will render the output abysmall.

HID bulbs are also drastically different shaped than halogen bulbs are.

A halogen projector is specifically designed to give an out put based on the shape and location of the halogen bulb in side it.

The HID sits deeper in and moves the focal point creating dead spots and unacceptable glare above the cut off point.

Before I did much research I had h7 HID system in my Depo lights. In less than a year the HID system burnt the chrome out of the projector.

I might as well have held the flashlight from my cell phone out the window while driving. It would have provided more light.

This drove me to do all this research and learn how to do all this myself.

You can buy pre made brackets, and everything made to just plug in but you will still have to take the halogen projector out and install the HID projector. All this pre made stuff can easily run you close to 400 bucks not counting the price of the depo housings as well.
 
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:44 PM
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I'm at work right now guys so I can answer questions real quick but don't have time to get links. But I will be off for the next 7 days and promise I will provide links to all the appropriate supplies and parts, I will try to provide the links into clusters of what would be a whole kit at different price points, the cheaper the price the more work required obviously.
 
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Old 03-02-2017, 01:32 PM
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No guarantees at the moment of this being exactly correct, was a rush jib during a free moment. Will go over it all one more time tomorrow. Consider this a rough guide

Cheap

Projector
https://www.theretrofitsource.com/co...andard-h1.html

$25

Bulbs

XenTec H1 6000K HID Xenon Bulb (1 Pair, Ultra White color)
Amazon Amazon

$12

Ballasts

uxcell Pair Car HID Xenon Mini Ballast 35W 10A 12V for H1 H3 H7 H8 H9 H10 H11
Amazon Amazon

$17

Harness adapter x2, will need to crimp male spade connectors onto the ends to plug into the h7 harness inside the housing.
https://www.theretrofitsource.com/90...test-lead.html

$1

Make your own bracket

$ potentially free

Better

Projector
https://www.theretrofitsource.com/co...andard-h1.html

$25

Bulbs
https://www.theretrofitsource.com/co...ndard-hid.html

$20

Ballasts
https://www.theretrofitsource.com/co...start-35w.html

$60

Harness adapter x2, will need to crimp male spade connectors onto the ends to plug into the h7 harness inside the housing.

https://www.theretrofitsource.com/90...test-lead.html

$1

Make your own bracket

$ potentially free

Best

Projectors
https://www.theretrofitsource.com/co...ni-h1-7-0.html

$130

Bulbs
https://www.theretrofitsource.com/co...to-xb-hid.html

$40

Ballasts
https://www.theretrofitsource.com/co...moto-xb35.html

$110

Brackets
http://www.lightwerkz.net/index.php/...-brackets.html

$70

Harness adapter x2, will need to crimp male spade connectors onto the ends to plug into the h7 harness inside the housing.

https://www.theretrofitsource.com/90...test-lead.html

$1
 

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