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Old May 3, 2022 | 04:09 PM
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On my car the seat map connector is all by itself, as shown in your Fig 7 picture, not part of a group of plugs. Maybe it was a LCI change since mine is a 2012 vs your 2008
 
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Old May 3, 2022 | 04:10 PM
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ok let me check again.
 
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Old May 3, 2022 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Lex2008
Here is your VIN specific harness diagram.

Can you post page #2 of this diagram? That's the one that shows the seat occupancy sensor.
 
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Old May 3, 2022 | 04:20 PM
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Is this the one you need? I unbolted the seat...



 
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Old May 3, 2022 | 04:24 PM
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Page 2....here ya go:


 
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Old May 3, 2022 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Lex2008
Is this the one you need? I unbolted the seat...

YES! And your colors match mine! Thanks again for going through the trouble. I can't wait to get that Airbag icon off my dash/speedo. A coworker of mine asked why brown/red/white wires change after the connector and we both decided it was to make life interesting in times like this.......lol
 

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Old May 3, 2022 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lex2008
Page 2....here ya go:

I still dont see why the actual wire colors on the car match with nothing in this schematic. Or am I reading it wrong? Less important now, for sure, just would've saved some wrenching on your part.
 
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Old May 3, 2022 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by yesti
YES! And your colors match mine! Thanks again for going through the trouble. I can't wait to get that Airbag icon off my dash/speedo. A coworker of mine asked why brown/red/white wires change after the connector and we both decided it was to make like interesting in times like this.......lol
woohooooooooooooo!!!!
 
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Old May 3, 2022 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by yesti
I still dont see why the actual wire colors on the car match with nothing in this schematic. Or am I reading it wrong? Less important now, for sure, just would've saved some wrenching on your part.

Well it says NON-OE in the description on ALLDATA. I have no idea what that is intended to mean. The OE diagram is this:


 
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Old May 3, 2022 | 04:38 PM
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Well it says NON-OE in the description on ALLDATA. I have no idea what that is intended to mean. The OE diagram is this:

Still dont see purple, grey, yellow. Well I guess yellow is there. Also figured out pin 3 is ground .
 
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Old May 3, 2022 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by yesti
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Still dont see purple, grey, yellow. Well I guess yellow is there. Also figured out pin 3 is ground .
How you gonna fix the connector?
 
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Old May 3, 2022 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lex2008
How you gonna fix the connector?
Twisting wires together, black tape. The connector is busted. Code cleared, didn't need the seat belt bypass. Motoring on!
 
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Old May 4, 2022 | 06:23 AM
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Living life with wreckless abandon...
 
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Old May 4, 2022 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Lex2008
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Ugh, I found I do need the seat belt chime eliminator. I pushed out a pin in the big connector that faces forward under the seat and it has a female connector. The eliminator has wires with male pins on the ends. So do I need to cut off the pins and solder on the female connectors so they fit in the big connector? That is the question. I emailed support but there is a big time difference and language barrier I'd guess as they were not helpful troubleshooting the seat mat connection.
 
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Old May 4, 2022 | 09:42 AM
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I dont understand why joining the wired with electrical tape didnt work.
 
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Old May 4, 2022 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lex2008
I dont understand why joining the wired with electrical tape didnt work.
No, that part worked. There are 2 emulators: seat mat, seat belt buckle. The seat mat (twisted wired/electrical tape) part is working thanks to your help. Now I'm working on eliminating the seat belt chime since the car now thinks the passenger seat is always occupied.
 
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Old May 4, 2022 | 10:14 AM
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can you put in a resistor to fool the ECM?
 
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Old May 4, 2022 | 10:16 AM
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I'm guessing the eliminator box has something similar in it, I haven't cracked it open. I just gotta figure out how to install it since the plugs don't match. I'll watch some youtube videos and see what i'm doing wrong
 
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Old May 4, 2022 | 10:21 AM
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so youre saying the ocupancy sensor is broken?
 
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Old May 4, 2022 | 10:51 AM
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the occupancy sensor aka the seat mat indeed is broken. it was throwing the airbag icon on the dash. that started this whole debacle. the saga continues...
 
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Old May 4, 2022 | 10:54 AM
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Ah now I understand. If someone sitting on the seat closes a circuit or increase resistance cant the circuit be easily fooled so the ECM thinks someone is always seated?
 
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Old May 4, 2022 | 11:15 AM
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apparently its more complicated than that. the emulator box has to produce a digital signal to fool the ECM. It has DIP switches on it to toggle between US/EU spec too.
 
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Old May 5, 2022 | 10:01 PM
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i can confirm that i am an idiot. of course the female pins on the vehicle side of the seat connector go to male pins on the seat side which i found after watching youtube. i successfully installed the seat belt buckle bypass. all is well now. here is the damage i did to the vehicle side seat mat connector blindly trying to disconnect it when i should've taken 5 minutes to unbolt the seat instead.

 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 06:35 AM
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The seatbelt buckle bypass solves the occupancy sensor failure?
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 09:24 AM
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when you fix the occupancy sensor, the seat belt chimes for 30 sec or whatever it is after you start driving. the seat belt emulator fixes that part.
 
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