Electrical Moving the Microphone
#1
Moving the Microphone
You may not think this is important, but once you've done it you'll be surprised a the difference it makes. Here is a link for a video for how to move the Microphone for the car so that it is on the Left(American) side instead of the stock Right(English) side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLQR8sYfqQ
If you have trouble with doing the way it shows on the video. Don't cut, Don't cut!! If you are short on wire.....After you take the first cover off....The main panel that is left can be removed very easily. It is two screws(Torx) and six tabs around the outside rim. After you pull this off there will be two wire harnesses holding it in place. If you want to disconnect feel free if not, leave it in. The wire for the mic can then be pulled over to the other side completely and you will be good to go. If not......it is bundled with these other harnesses, and if needed you can remove some of the bundling material to give yourself some more play. Good luck!
On a side note.... this is also how you access the map lights if you wanted to change them out to LEDS. Just remove the four screws on the back of the switch panel and take the twist lock sockets out and replace all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLQR8sYfqQ
If you have trouble with doing the way it shows on the video. Don't cut, Don't cut!! If you are short on wire.....After you take the first cover off....The main panel that is left can be removed very easily. It is two screws(Torx) and six tabs around the outside rim. After you pull this off there will be two wire harnesses holding it in place. If you want to disconnect feel free if not, leave it in. The wire for the mic can then be pulled over to the other side completely and you will be good to go. If not......it is bundled with these other harnesses, and if needed you can remove some of the bundling material to give yourself some more play. Good luck!
On a side note.... this is also how you access the map lights if you wanted to change them out to LEDS. Just remove the four screws on the back of the switch panel and take the twist lock sockets out and replace all.
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Moved the microphone..
took 10 minutes at the most...i did have to remove the screws on the inner bracket to feed the wire thru the opposite side...not a big deal at all. The wire in mine was extremely short as will . i recommend using something broad (i used a putty knife) as opposed to a screw driver to pry off the first plastic piece. I used a driver in my Clubbie when i did this and irreversibly "dented" the headliner. Wasnt a big deal but was noticeable to me.
The difference is more noticeable in the voice instruction. i havent had to repeat a voice intruction yet since i switched the microphone side. Do it...it is easy and especially useful/helpful.
The difference is more noticeable in the voice instruction. i havent had to repeat a voice intruction yet since i switched the microphone side. Do it...it is easy and especially useful/helpful.
#5
took 10 minutes at the most...i did have to remove the screws on the inner bracket to feed the wire thru the opposite side...not a big deal at all. The wire in mine was extremely short as will . i recommend using something broad (i used a putty knife) as opposed to a screw driver to pry off the first plastic piece. I used a driver in my Clubbie when i did this and irreversibly "dented" the headliner. Wasnt a big deal but was noticeable to me.
The difference is more noticeable in the voice instruction. i havent had to repeat a voice intruction yet since i switched the microphone side. Do it...it is easy and especially useful/helpful.
The difference is more noticeable in the voice instruction. i havent had to repeat a voice intruction yet since i switched the microphone side. Do it...it is easy and especially useful/helpful.
That's good to know when I order mine with Bluetooth.
#6
I moved the mic Saturday. Wires were so short I had to take off the bracket and the clip that held the wire bundle. After that it was a snap. Shouldn't take any more than ten minutes. Most time was getting the correct torx size and removing the clip. The clip comes off easy if you slide it toward the front.
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#8
I moved the speakers on both my new Countryman and my wife's new MCS.
Yes, at first the wires seemed too short. The reason I had trouble was I tried feeding the wires through the most obvious hole, also the easiest to reach. Then I risked jamming the wires straight up above the entire plastic housing
and used a paint can opener to fish them along above the housing until I got them to the other side. I did not have to take the housing off on either car. This method gave me another inch or so of wire length which is all one needs.
Once the wires are routed via the shortest path they fit fine on both cars.
Another note. The small plastic connector on the little speaker box does not like to turn loose. A little pressure on the protruding tab, some wiggling and elbow grease finally got them out.
Yes, at first the wires seemed too short. The reason I had trouble was I tried feeding the wires through the most obvious hole, also the easiest to reach. Then I risked jamming the wires straight up above the entire plastic housing
and used a paint can opener to fish them along above the housing until I got them to the other side. I did not have to take the housing off on either car. This method gave me another inch or so of wire length which is all one needs.
Once the wires are routed via the shortest path they fit fine on both cars.
Another note. The small plastic connector on the little speaker box does not like to turn loose. A little pressure on the protruding tab, some wiggling and elbow grease finally got them out.
#10
Thanks for this post. I just moved my microphone on my CM. My wire wouldn't reach using the obvious opening, so I used MacMitch's method where I pushed the wire straight up through the opening it comes from and then fished it down through the other opening.
Last edited by creep; 10-24-2011 at 07:25 PM.
#11
Swapped the mic a few months back. Piece of cake however the mic wire was way to short. Removed some wrapping tape from the harness inside the headliner. That provided just enough slack to make it work perfectly.
Also, what MatMed said, use a putty knife to remove the plastic cap piece. I used a 1 1/2" nylon putty knife and worked around the piece prying it without any damage whatsoever.
Also, what MatMed said, use a putty knife to remove the plastic cap piece. I used a 1 1/2" nylon putty knife and worked around the piece prying it without any damage whatsoever.
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#13
I love you guys
This is why I love the internet and forums! I did not even know that this was an issue but I had thought previously that the mic seemed a little ordinary.
Sat reading this thread with my coffee this morning, all your input and videos and set about changing it over - why not? 15 minute job, and voila! I'd say a 20 to 30% improvement in pickup quality. I left myself a voicemail at home using my iphone on the car moving my head from the drivers side ( where the mic was relocated) to the passenger side and the clarity delta was quite remarkable.
Thanks guys! I love being part of the "village" ( even if I am the idiot) and I love my Countryman. I will post an update on my trouble free 6000 miles in another thread to pay if forwards. Cheers!
Sat reading this thread with my coffee this morning, all your input and videos and set about changing it over - why not? 15 minute job, and voila! I'd say a 20 to 30% improvement in pickup quality. I left myself a voicemail at home using my iphone on the car moving my head from the drivers side ( where the mic was relocated) to the passenger side and the clarity delta was quite remarkable.
Thanks guys! I love being part of the "village" ( even if I am the idiot) and I love my Countryman. I will post an update on my trouble free 6000 miles in another thread to pay if forwards. Cheers!
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Just tried to move the mic in my 2012 CMS, and had to retreat. I got the cover off fine, popped out the mic, but for the life of me I could not disconnect the wiring from the mic. I tried pressing on the little tab with a knitting needle white pulling, but no dice. That thing is ON there. Am I missing something, or do I just need a third hand? I'm afraid I'm going to break it! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
EDIT: Nevermind! My husband came out and popped it off like it was nothing with his man hands. Apparently it can take a lot more abuse than I thought. We had to take the whole head unit out to move the wire over because it was so short--thankfully he had the right bit for it. But the mic is on the left and so far seems to be working much better. Not that it was bad before, but it's now registering words that it wouldn't before, like "Home" and "Yes."
EDIT: Nevermind! My husband came out and popped it off like it was nothing with his man hands. Apparently it can take a lot more abuse than I thought. We had to take the whole head unit out to move the wire over because it was so short--thankfully he had the right bit for it. But the mic is on the left and so far seems to be working much better. Not that it was bad before, but it's now registering words that it wouldn't before, like "Home" and "Yes."
Last edited by AnnArrogance; 12-29-2011 at 01:33 PM.
#15
Forgive this cross-post:
An interesting update...
I received a message from a contact in the UK. His microphone is mounted on the LEFT side of the upper console! So it appears that MINI's "forbidden" microphone move may have indeed been broadcast from the Mother Ship.
I don't care, though. I'm keeping mine of the left!
An interesting update...
I received a message from a contact in the UK. His microphone is mounted on the LEFT side of the upper console! So it appears that MINI's "forbidden" microphone move may have indeed been broadcast from the Mother Ship.
I don't care, though. I'm keeping mine of the left!
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If you are short on wire.....After you take the first cover off....The main panel that is left can be removed very easily. It is two screws(Torx) and six tabs around the outside rim. After you pull this off there will be two wire harnesses holding it in place.
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I did my microphone this morning in the parking lot at my office.
Car is a 2012 S All4.
I did not need a torx. I simply poked the wire up into the hole through which it came and then fished it back out through the lower hole on the other side with my MINI logo pen from the dealership and the use of various other holes to poke it around to where I wanted it.
There was enough wire to get it installed without removing the harness clips or second cover.
Be careful if you plan to stick your finger in the second cover's holes. There are some sharp edges as evidenced by the flesh wounds on my index fingers.
I wish I had used the pen to fish before using my fingers.
Car is a 2012 S All4.
I did not need a torx. I simply poked the wire up into the hole through which it came and then fished it back out through the lower hole on the other side with my MINI logo pen from the dealership and the use of various other holes to poke it around to where I wanted it.
There was enough wire to get it installed without removing the harness clips or second cover.
Be careful if you plan to stick your finger in the second cover's holes. There are some sharp edges as evidenced by the flesh wounds on my index fingers.
I wish I had used the pen to fish before using my fingers.
#22
I did my microphone this morning in the parking lot at my office.
Car is a 2012 S All4.
I did not need a torx. I simply poked the wire up into the hole through which it came and then fished it back out through the lower hole on the other side with my MINI logo pen from the dealership and the use of various other holes to poke it around to where I wanted it.
There was enough wire to get it installed without removing the harness clips or second cover.
Be careful if you plan to stick your finger in the second cover's holes. There are some sharp edges as evidenced by the flesh wounds on my index fingers.
I wish I had used the pen to fish before using my fingers.
Car is a 2012 S All4.
I did not need a torx. I simply poked the wire up into the hole through which it came and then fished it back out through the lower hole on the other side with my MINI logo pen from the dealership and the use of various other holes to poke it around to where I wanted it.
There was enough wire to get it installed without removing the harness clips or second cover.
Be careful if you plan to stick your finger in the second cover's holes. There are some sharp edges as evidenced by the flesh wounds on my index fingers.
I wish I had used the pen to fish before using my fingers.
#23
I just completed this as well in about 5 minutes or less. I found it easy to push the harness back up into the housing and then use a screwdriver as stated above and pulled it through. Voila! Done.
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I did find it helped to turn down the A/C fan, but it still wasn't great. Hopefully, this will help!!