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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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OBD2 Gauges?

Mach V just posted this,

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=122249

What information is available to display on a 2nd Gen Min through the OBD2 port?

Coolant Temp? Oil Temp? Oil Pressure? Boost?

The DashDAQ website has some nice user videos and info on this system. Looks really nice. March 31, 2008 date for the GPS addon (which is an external GPS antenna and software on a memory card).

The whole thing runs on Linux.
 

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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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The Scangauge II will display the following:
  • Fuel Economy
  • Fuel Rate
  • Battery Voltage
  • Coolant Temperature
  • Intake Air Temperature
  • Engine Speed (RPM)
  • Vehicle speed (MPH)
  • Manifold Pressure
  • Engine Load
  • Throttle Position
  • Ignition Timing
  • Open/Closed Loop
It's over $500 cheaper than the DashDAQ II
 
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Minidrivr
Mach V just posted this,

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=122249

What information is available to display on a 2nd Gen Min through the OBD2 port?

Coolant Temp? Oil Temp? Oil Pressure? Boost?
Yes, no, no, yes.

The complete list:
  • Calculated load value
  • Engine coolant temp
  • Short-term fuel trim
  • Long-term fuel trim
  • Intake manifold absolute pressure
  • Engine RPM
  • Vehicle speed
  • Ignition timing advance
  • Intake air temperature
  • Air flow rate from MAF
  • Absolute throttle #1 position
  • Oxygen sensor #2
  • Time since engine start
  • Distance traveled while MIL activated
  • Fuel rail pressure
  • Commanded evap purge
  • Fuel level
  • Distance since DTCs cleared
  • Barometric pressure
  • Oxygen sensor #1 (wide range)
  • Catalytic converter temp
  • Control module voltage
  • Commanded equivalence
  • Relative throttle position
  • Ambient air temp
  • Absolute throttle position B
  • Accelerator pedal position D
  • Accelerator pedal position E
  • Commanded throttle actuator control
  • OBD Latency
  • OBD update rate
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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Funny I was just about to start a thread about the same thing. But, can someone tell me where the OBD2 port is? Is it easy to plug into? Is Drilling required?
 
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by pl4ypl4y
But, can someone tell me where the OBD2 port is?
Under the dash, above the driver's left knee. There's a little tethered cover on it. Pull straight down to remove the cover.

Is it easy to plug into?
Yes.

Is Drilling required?
Heh! No.

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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 02:09 AM
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What about the competition?

DashHawk and DashDyno SPD?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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It looks like DashDAQ is banking on the fact they have a more customizable touchscreen than the others with higher resolution. Still expensive for such a toy though. Combining GPS into it is a plus the others don't have. But it's requirement of an external antenna just makes it more complicated in my book.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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What about the competition?
There's a pretty thorough comparison page HERE.

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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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wow

That DashDaq is a lot of cash for an OBD2 reader. For that kind of money you can almost afford to buy a laptop computer and interface cable and just leave them in the car. You could certainly afford a nice PDA and interface cable, like the ElmScan 5 for $115 or $189 set up with bluetooth:
http://www.scantool.net/products/index.php?cPath=8_6


If you just want to watch some parameters, there's:

Aeroforce Intercepter, $239:
http://marylandspeed.com/aeroforce-i...dii-p-404.html

Same guys have the MSD Dashhawk for $299:
http://marylandspeed.com/msd-dashhaw...100-p-739.html


ScanGauge II, $169:
http://www.scangauge.com/

RaceTech has ones hard-wired to only display one or two parameters and not be adjustable, but at @$80 each that might be fine?:
http://www.race-tech-designs.com/sto...p-1-c-248.html
 

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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by oldopelguy
Aeroforce Intercepter, $239:
http://marylandspeed.com/aeroforce-i...dii-p-404.html

RaceTech has ones hard-wired to only display one or two parameters and not be adjustable, but at @$80 each that might be fine?:
http://www.race-tech-designs.com/sto...p-1-c-248.html
Those 2 look the most interesting to me! Thanks for the links.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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or what i just bought for my R56, the DashDyno SPD.
http://www.auterraweb.com/index.html
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by danielo
or what i just bought for my R56, the DashDyno SPD.
http://www.auterraweb.com/index.html
There website lists a bunch of things it can monitor. What stuff does it monitor in a Mini? Does it have voltage like the one displayed on their website?
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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Well, i've purchased it, i haven't received it yet.

The reason i bought a diagonistic tool was that i could monitor my water temp. All the rest that comes with it are bonuses.

Degi gauges was a no no cause i wan't prepared to hack into my wiring.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by danielo
Well, i've purchased it, i haven't received it yet.

The reason i bought a diagonistic tool was that i could monitor my water temp. All the rest that comes with it are bonuses.

Degi gauges was a no no cause i wan't prepared to hack into my wiring.
I'm looking for the same thing. I kind of like the Race Tech one above that is a gauge. Most all the ones mention here so far show water temp. What made you decide on that one?

Where do you think you'll mount it?
 
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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Hi, sorry didn't check back on this thread.

My scan tool also shows water temp.

I picked this cause apprently the DashHawk (my 1st choice) doesn't work on the Mini R56. The ScanGauge would have done what i wanted it to since i only wanted a temp gauge but after contacting Dave from Auterra, he convinced me that his product was the better choice, even though a bit more expensive.

It was also the that Dave was the only one that responded to my emails regarding the product. The other 2 companies didn't bother to reply back to me.

I mounted mine right above the key slot!
 
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by danielo
Hi, sorry didn't check back on this thread.

My scan tool also shows water temp.

I picked this cause apprently the DashHawk (my 1st choice) doesn't work on the Mini R56. The ScanGauge would have done what i wanted it to since i only wanted a temp gauge but after contacting Dave from Auterra, he convinced me that his product was the better choice, even though a bit more expensive.

It was also the that Dave was the only one that responded to my emails regarding the product. The other 2 companies didn't bother to reply back to me.

I mounted mine right above the key slot!
I'd like to see a picture if you have a chance.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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PLX devices has an awesome OBDII package.
http://www.plxdevices.com/products/dm200obd/

I believe Dan @ Mach V carries them, it looks great and is customizable. And honestly, just my opinion, but the dashhawk looks like it belongs in the late 80s along with corvette digital dashes and knight rider.

Have fun,
Josh
 
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Minidrivr
I'd like to see a picture if you have a chance.
Sorry for the delay, I had to remove it while the car was back in the shop for some warranty work.

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dashhawk

Do you know if the
Dash hawk works on the 2006 Mini Cooper S JCW
 
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Originally Posted by Flynscot1772
Do you know if the
Dash hawk works on the 2006 Mini Cooper S JCW
You would be best to ask in the Gen 1 section as your car is a Gen 1 car. This is the Gen2 Section
 
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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Anyone ever tried to get any of the ODBC tools to display on MINI Nav display?
 
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jcM1N1
Anyone ever tried to get any of the ODBC tools to display on MINI Nav display?
can't be done.

Well it could be done if you have a sperate ODBii unit that outputs a TV or video signal and then inject it back in thru the tv or avideo input wiring that is not standard in the USA and can be gotten thru newministuff.com

Lots of work to ma e it happen.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Might be better off installing a custom head unity with an actual embeded PC and video monitor capable of VGA output. Of course, that might also mean swapping out alternator to generate more juice for the car pc. Perhaps hardwire a docking station and dock the laptop in the trunk. Undock when you leave the car. Netbook should be perfect for a project like this.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jcM1N1
Might be better off installing a custom head unity with an actual embeded PC and video monitor capable of VGA output. Of course, that might also mean swapping out alternator to generate more juice for the car pc. Perhaps hardwire a docking station and dock the laptop in the trunk. Undock when you leave the car. Netbook should be perfect for a project like this.
You mean something like this. Although this does not use the NAV screen as it is not a touch screen and for the over all use of a computer in the car a touch screen make it well worth while. And yes the system in the thread below does do ODBII

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-upgrades.html

EDIT: and BTW this draws less than 6 amps at 14.4 volts when running.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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I've been looking into getting a water temp guage and boost guage, although what I really care about is water temp. I too don't like the idea of taping into my electrical and drilling a hole into my radiator overflow tank. I like keeping my Mini as stock as possible (even though I've installed a FMIC, DDM street intake, etc..) ..these are all upgrades that can be reversed easily.

I like the look of traditional guages, ..the PLX system interests me most as it looks like a traditional guage.

my questions about the PLX setup:

1) confused as what I need to purchase to use the PLX system. Can I just buy the PLX -100 ..or do I need to purchase a "Sensor" unit w/ it as well, ..if so that doubles the price depending on which sensor ...also there are like 10 different sensors they sell. ...which one do i need to run one PLX guage?

2) all I have to do is plug this into the OBD port and that's it?

3) will the PLX display water temp + boost? (Dan's list above didn't mention that Boost was available, ...yet some of you guys are saying your readers display boost). Still confused on that.


Thanks,
Dan i'll purchase the PLX from your site (provided it does what I want).
 
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