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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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DFIC car is faster!!!

My friend and I each purchased our MINIs around the same time. Our cars had the same mods installed by the same tuner (Alta 15%, CAI, MTH Tuner, TB, exhaust). Both our cars had identical performance. We often drove each others cars. Several months ago I had the M7 DFIC installed at Central Coast Coopers in Oxnard, CA. Immediately I noticed that the car was faster, had better throttle response and often I could use a higher gear. However I thought that some of the observed performance enhancement was due to placebo effect until I recently drove my friends car (no DFIC). The difference is very significant. My three favorite mods are the 15% pulley, Koni FSDs and the DFIC without question.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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You might want to add this if you don't have the ceramic undercoat...





https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...t=82359&page=3
 
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Clemens
My friend and I each purchased our MINIs around the same time. Our cars had the same mods installed by the same tuner (Alta 15%, CAI, MTH Tuner, TB, exhaust). Both our cars had identical performance. We often drove each others cars. Several months ago I had the M7 DFIC installed at Central Coast Coopers in Oxnard, CA. Immediately I noticed that the car was faster, had better throttle response and often I could use a higher gear. However I thought that some of the observed performance enhancement was due to placebo effect until I recently drove my friends car (no DFIC). The difference is very significant. My three favorite mods are the 15% pulley, Koni FSDs and the DFIC without question.
Does your friend have a stock IC? If not what?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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Larry, that's a pretty interesting comparison. Thanks for posting. Glad you can smoke your buddy's car now.

Sid, did you notice any difference in the temp readings after the thermal barrier?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Clemens
My friend and I each purchased our MINIs around the same time. Our cars had the same mods installed by the same tuner (Alta 15%, CAI, MTH Tuner, TB, exhaust). Both our cars had identical performance. We often drove each others cars. Several months ago I had the M7 DFIC installed at Central Coast Coopers in Oxnard, CA. Immediately I noticed that the car was faster, had better throttle response and often I could use a higher gear. However I thought that some of the observed performance enhancement was due to placebo effect until I recently drove my friends car (no DFIC). The difference is very significant. My three favorite mods are the 15% pulley, Koni FSDs and the DFIC without question.
I'm curious to know what you base this on. Do you have any data to compare like what can be gotten from a scangauge 2 or is this "buttdyno" anecdotal impressions.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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I'm curious to know what you base this on. Do you have any data to compare like what can be gotten from a scangauge 2 or is this "buttdyno" anecdotal impressions.
Buttdyno++ - drive-change car-drive. Kinda like checking two sets of speakers in an audio store (A-B-A-B).
 
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by stevecars60
Does your friend have a stock IC? If not what?
Stock IC
 
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
You might want to add this if you don't have the ceramic undercoat...





https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...t=82359&page=3
Sid - I have the ceramic undercoat and heat dispersant black paint. However I have coated the outside of my CAI box with similar aluminized heat dispersant tape from Pegasus Racing.

I am having DFIC insulation issues. The adhesive foam strip peels away from the hood on the left side. I think Peter has a fix for this. Also what have all you DFIC owners done to seal the openings between top of both sides of the diverter and the hood?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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Larry, that's a pretty interesting comparison. Thanks for posting. Glad you can smoke your buddy's car now.

Sid, did you notice any difference in the temp readings after the thermal barrier?
You KNOW I'm waiting for the O2 sensor dude...I just did this tonight...
 
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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You KNOW I'm waiting for the O2 sensor dude...I just did this tonight...
You just put that on tonight??
What the hell have you been doing??
I figured that was on the day after you got home from MOTD2006.
Oh yea, the sensor...
 
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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You just put that on tonight??
What the hell have you been doing??
I figured that was on the day after you got home from MOTD2006.
Oh yea, the sensor...
I've been too lazy to do this until now...now that I'm bored out of my mind with Msfitoy up on jacks :impatient
 
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
I've been too lazy to do this until now...now that I'm bored out of my mind with Msfitoy up on jacks :impatient
So, I better get the sensor out quick. There can't be much more you can do to the 'toy.
Oh, the AGS V.3 ...
 
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:19 AM
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I am a huge DFIC advocate..... one of my favorite mods and a BIG piece of the puzzle


nice post Larry
 
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 05:20 AM
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I'll pile on again too. My MINI is running stronger since installing the DFIC. More power, no more heatsoak. Get one.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry Clemens
Buttdyno++ - drive-change car-drive. Kinda like checking two sets of speakers in an audio store (A-B-A-B).
Too bad automotive outputs are not of the same consistency that head units are.
You may have had a faster car all along.

What's important though is that you're happy.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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I added this on top of my ceramic coating. Overkill, not sure, but I'm expecting that it helped some.

Paul

Originally Posted by MSFITOY
You might want to add this if you don't have the ceramic undercoat...





https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...t=82359&page=3
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry Clemens
My friend and I each purchased our MINIs around the same time. Our cars had the same mods installed by the same tuner (Alta 15%, CAI, MTH Tuner, TB, exhaust). Both our cars had identical performance. We often drove each others cars. Several months ago I had the M7 DFICinstalled at Central Coast Coopers in Oxnard, CA. Immediately I noticed that the car was faster, had better throttle response and often I could use a higher gear. However I thought that some of the observed performance enhancement was due to placebo effect until I recently drove my friends car (no DFIC). The difference is very significant. My three favorite mods are the 15% pulley, Koni FSDs and the DFIC without question.
I just moved to Simi. I'm so excited to see there is a Mini performance place near me. I should be taking home my MCS in about 2 weeks. Can't wait to bring it in for some new toys!
 
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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Having gone thru 3 IC units, I find that the DFIC makes the car the most "consistently strong" through out the day. When I go out to play with my G-Tech and do run after run, the car is more consistent with the DFIC as opposed to the others.

Bear in mind that I live in Florida where temps/heatsoak are magnified power robbers.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bahamabart
Having gone thru 3 IC units, I find that the DFIC makes the car the most "consistently strong" through out the day. When I go out to play with my G-Tech and do run after run, the car is more consistent with the DFIC as opposed to the others.

Bear in mind that I live in Florida where temps/heatsoak are magnified power robbers.
That's the best confirmation of the performance of the DFIC, so far . I thought it looked like it would heat soak fast.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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Plus ,you have to ask, why didn't they think of that?
 
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